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[00:00:00] Hey, have you been in that new Papua New Guinea restaurant? Yep, I recommend the Chico Roll Polar Pie. Is that all in one dish? Sure. Hello and welcome back to another episode of Shit I Told My Hairdresser.
[00:00:29] I'm Jason and this is my hostage Jack. Hostage? That's about right. Yeah, I'm holding you hair. Yeah, it just seems very forceful and mean. You know I like that. That's how I am. I'm forceful and mean. You like that. I know I do like that. How are you? What's happening, man? Hey, you want to know what, man? It's another sunny day in Seattle and I'm enjoying the sun around here.
[00:00:57] It's been the driest January we've had in a very long time, so can't complain. Really? Fucking cold, but cold for me. Listen, let me tell you about the cold, okay? So right now it's like 41, something like that. That's nice. That's not bad. Right. Six hours ago it was negative four Fahrenheit. Negative four Fahrenheit. So the whole weekend was like that.
[00:01:26] The highest it was was like seven. You know what it sounds like to me? Sounds like some people that we know. Ice cold. From Los Angeles? Is that what you mean? Let me let me tell you about cold. Which one are you talking about? Do you remember a client I used to have? Cold ass motherfucker are you talking about? Remember Stefan? Yeah. The guy who would come in like fucked up half the time where he's kind of like head kind of hunched over.
[00:01:54] And, you know, depending on who you're talking to, it was like Stefan or Stefan. One of those. And this is a straight guy, by the way, who we're talking about. He just liked to go in the hair salon and get all pretty and nice. Absolutely. What guy doesn't like that? Yeah. But he the guy had like ice water in his veins because he was a bridge lender.
[00:02:23] Now, a bridge lender is. What is that? Basically, they're like legal loan sharks. All right. His he would lend people large sums of money. It was an actual company that he owned and they would lend anywhere from 37 to 50 percent. Interest rates is what he would do for large sums of money for these for these different companies who need money really, really fast. That's a bridge. Lend is a little high.
[00:02:54] Yeah, because if I want to go buy a house right now, I would be paying 7 percent to borrow money from like, say, Wells Fargo or. Yeah. Thank you for. Exactly. You know, Penny Mac, whatever it is. You know, I mean, I'd be paying 7 percent. This guy would go through and broker deals that started at 37 and go as high as like this. It's low. I had this 60 percent. So it's legal loan shark. So I don't like a name loan shark anymore. Is that like offensive?
[00:03:22] Yeah, well, the pretty name was Bridge Lender. Bridge Lender. Right. So they were going through creating that bridge between them for you needing that money to getting that money. And they're facilitating it with their bridge. It just so happened that they can come after everything you got if you couldn't pay up. Right. So that meant that they came up to business and broke it down piece by piece or your home or whatever you had as collateral.
[00:03:50] They now own if you couldn't pony up the money. So whatever name you want to give it, this sounds like mafia shit. Exactly. Yes. But they just didn't break your legs. They took your family's home. They took your home away from your kids. They will. But you still had your legs and your fingers. Jeez. I wonder if he had like guys who would do that. You weren't picking up your teeth with broken fingers. You know that happens. Like if he does that amount of money, you know.
[00:04:21] I did his hair for a long time. I never heard him saying anything like that at all because they didn't have to. They had lawyers that would just come over and just take everything you got. Yeah. You know. They made sure before you got that money, they made sure. That's even worse. I would rather than just break my kneecaps off or something, you know. Oh my God. Send me to court. And yeah. But he's one of those guys. He didn't have a soul.
[00:04:51] That's what he did. So I knew that he had a lot of money on him. Always. So. Yeah. And he had no. He always. And all that. Oh no, he did. You know what I mean? That's for sure. But he also had a mouth on him too. And that was a big problem. You know. And I remember I went from one salon to the next salon. And I remember like. He would go through and say shit and offend everyone around us. And the owner's like, you got to calm that motherfucker down. I go, just wait a minute.
[00:05:21] Give it a second. I'll let him know and watch what happens. I remember one of the owners of the salon goes, what are you talking about? I go, give it half an hour. And after he pissed off everyone in the room. And I would tell him that you want to want to do your days here are numbered. He'd go to the bank. He'd go to the bank, pull out a couple thousand dollars, walk in the backside of the salon and start handing out hundred dollar bills to whoever he thought he pissed off. And whoever was the focus of the main person, whoever he pissed off,
[00:05:50] he just hand him a fistful of cash and walk out the door. Like that, that was his way that saying, I'm sorry. Once again, it's sort of like mafia shit. Sounds like you screw up, you know, you throw a little money at it. You walk away. That was Stefan. Well, or Stefan. Stefan. Yeah. You know, but like I was saying, the man had no soul. So he was always trying to fill it with like drugs and alcohol.
[00:06:18] So every time he came in, he was just fucked up half the time. That's usually how he was. That's how I remember him. He was just like mostly sloppy drunk. Yeah. Yeah. The only way he didn't pass out immediately is because he had just pumped a whole bunch of Coke. Exactly. So that was the thing he would come in is either he was like half asleep or kind of like, you know, almost like leaning over my chair, which always had to stay in front of him to cut his hair.
[00:06:44] You know, because he was like fucked up and like, you know, falling down half the time, you know, or he was like, why the fuck awake and just pissing off everyone inside the salon. Yeah. Well, I know until there was one day where he came in and he really went for it, you know, because he was going through and he was. Because when the last salon that I worked in L.A., he was going there and we had a girl that would do his eyebrows and he fell in love with her.
[00:07:15] Yeah. Yeah. She was cute. She was very pretty. Oh, yeah. She's hot. And yeah. So how did he even end up going to her? He must have looked at her. Who's that? She does eyebrows. She sat right behind me. My eyebrows done. No, she sat right behind me. She's the one who actually approached him and saying, hey, I do Jason's eyebrows. I should do yours, too. Oh, exactly. That makes it even more interesting. OK, so.
[00:07:44] That's how it happened, because she was she was basically kind of all kind of got there at the same time. Yeah. Right. And she was looking for business and being that, you know, I was right behind. She was right behind me. Of course, she was asking all my clients and I was totally cool with it because she actually did really nice work. But she was also asking my I might view my male clients to do it. That's totally fine. It's all famous now. So normally what I would do is just like trim up their eyebrows myself. And then a lot of my guys just take the long ones off. Call it a day.
[00:08:13] Well, he sees this girl and all of a sudden he's like, yes, do my eyebrows. Yeah. Yeah. For $100 for $100 for 10 minutes. He didn't care. Sure. Yeah. In fact, he would tip her double that. So by the time he was done, it was like $300 for 10 minutes worth of work. He did not give a shit. He was like, well, here, take my money. Oh, yeah. No, it's all worth it.
[00:08:40] And let me tell you, over the course of a year, I mean, he would do and he'd buy bring her gifts. He never brought me any gifts. I'm a motherfucker. You know, give me plenty of money, but he never gave me any gifts. But he'd always like bring her gifts, always asking her out. She said no. Constantly saying no to him. Always turning him down. And he's like, well, Jason, what do we got to do to get this girl to come out with me? I'm like, man, I think she's got a boyfriend. I don't know what to tell you, dude. I'm all that's not my business. You know, whatever she does, she does.
[00:09:09] But and he was doing everything to get her to go out with him. She doesn't want to go out with him. But it was a game. You could tell it was this game that she was playing with him to get him to come back to tip more money, whatever it was. She knew she got him. She kind of kind of hooked and, you know, had him coming in like every three weeks. He would come in every three weeks for a haircut. Every three weeks. So one day he comes in and he was on a fucking tear.
[00:09:38] And I don't know how much blow he did in his car before he came in. But of course, he had to have that power of confidence walking in that day. And it was like, I remember him telling her, he goes, you know, I can buy you a new set of tits. He's like, your tits are ugly. He's like, they're not that big. He's all buy you a new pair. What? That was the line. That was her line. Was that. That's what it took. I was like, oh, shit. And I heard it.
[00:10:07] Well, he personally insulted her, you know. Yeah. Yeah. So at that point, I'm at the front. I go, dude. He's all, should I go to the bank? And I'm like, you fucking think. The owner comes walking over and goes, that's it. You're done. I don't ever want to see your face inside the salon again. Yeah. And I looked at him and I go. No, he means it. He means it. Yeah. Because I've never seen this guy like that. Yeah. Ever. I'm like, he fucking means it.
[00:10:37] So, I mean, he's texting me afterwards and I'm like, dude, I'll try to talk to him, but I guarantee the answer is going to be no. And so, over the course of a couple of weeks, he's like, text me, can I come back in? I'm like, no. He's saying, no, you can't come in. He's like, well, can you come to my house? And I'm like, I don't know. Yeah. You don't know what you're getting into.
[00:11:07] So, then all of a sudden the auction starts. First of all, where was it? Well, I'll pay you. It was in the Wilshire Corridor. So, I knew it was a nice place. Okay. All right. You know, and he was like, I have a condo in the Wilshire Corridor. Yeah. And then the auction started. It was like, I'll pay you $300. I'll pay you $400. Then he got to $600 and I went, okay. So, that's my price. Now, this is 15 years ago. All right. So, this is $600 15 years ago. It might be double now.
[00:11:37] Well, I'm. If you're that big of an asshole. $1,200? Yeah. Yeah. I'm not that big of an asshole to pay you $1,200. Well, I. Come over to my house. I don't want to at my house. Exactly. Yeah. I'm not coming over. Don't worry. Let's be clear about that. Yeah. But, my price was $600. Sure. To deal with the shit that I thought I might have to deal with if I go to his place. Yeah.
[00:12:02] And I go over there and let me tell you, he had a fucking sweet ass condo right there on Wilshire. It was gorgeous. You know? And. I'm sure it was. He actually was. When I went to his house, he was actually really nice. It was a very different type of atmosphere. There was always like a housekeeper around or something. You know? So, it wasn't just he and I, only he and I, and that's it. Yeah. There's always something kind of there. You know? Some person there. No.
[00:12:29] He wasn't like yelling out obscenities and snorting coke off the counter or anything. No. There was always like a lawyer there. There was. I remember one guy who had prepared him for speeches. Because, yeah, I remember he did a lot of public speaking. He did? Oh. Yeah. I know. I was kind of shocked too. So, he's like, I'm trying to cut this guy's hair. And it's like trying to cut a politician's hair as he's trying to give like, you know, working on his speech and this and that. It was fucking odd. But I didn't mind it. It was like $600.
[00:12:59] And I was there for a half an hour. And that was it. And I'm in and out. So, it was awesome. And that's the thing. So, like, I know he was a mess and everything. He was funny, though. You know. He was. Oh, yeah. He was funny. During this time, though, he actually got sober. Okay. Well, good. And I actually got to meet the true Stefan. You know. And I remember going over there for a couple of months. And he was like, you know, I'll get better that you come to my place. It's much easier on me.
[00:13:28] He's like. And I'm like, and you want to watch him? Like, you're way cooler now that you're sober as well. You know. And he's like, thanks. I appreciate it. So, I don't know. I think he went to rehab for a little bit. Yeah. You know. And just, like, cleaned up his act. You know. So. Probably had to. Yeah. Yeah. Business. Who knows? Maybe one of his business partners were kind of like, dude, you got to clean your shit up. Yeah. This is getting messy. Yep. Because who knows how he acted at work or the clients, you know, especially dealing with these high profile clients.
[00:13:57] Something must have happened where he was like, yeah, I fucked up and now I got to clean it up. But the thing is, you can't last long. No. Living like that. You know? No. You're going to burn out fast. So that's how much shit he was doing. Hmm. But it didn't last very long. He got into a motorcycle accident and up in the hospital because he was famous for doing a lot of pills and they were giving him pain pills and man, he fell off. He fell off again. And I was like, oh shit, the old Stefan came back.
[00:14:27] That's all it took. That's all it took, you know? And then all of a sudden, the guy's gone. Fell off just the face of the earth. I was like gone. I'm like, oh, okay. I'm like three weeks go by. No text message. I tried calling him. I tried texting him. Nothing. I'm like, well, maybe he's in rehab. Maybe who knows what happened? You know? Yeah.
[00:14:51] And about another week goes by and the girl who did his eyebrows walks over to me and goes, Hey, Jason, did you hear about Stefan? I go here. What? She goes, he had an overdose. He died. And I'm like, what? Wait a minute. That's how you found out. Uh huh. The girl who had him thrown out of the salon. I started figuring things out. She was going to see him even after.
[00:15:20] And she never mentioned it to you. No. So he didn't either, I guess. Nope. So something was going on there. Yeah. Exactly. Well, um, I thought she was all pissed off and offended and well, probably enjoyed it. That's what I'm thinking. She didn't like him saying horrible shit who were in front of everyone. So they just moved it over to his place, I guess. I'm thinking so.
[00:15:50] Cause otherwise I said, I looked at her and I go, why'd you find this out? She was like, well, um, he wasn't calling me. And I was like, wait, I mean, it was like this sheepish little smile that she had. And I'm like, oh, wow. Cause I looked it up and I found his obituary online. Why the fuck would you go search? No, she didn't. Yeah. See, that's exactly what he wanted anyway. Exactly.
[00:16:15] So maybe he did that on purpose so that he can end up, you know, having her over and yeah, who knows what was going on? I bet they were hooking up for something. Who knows? I don't know. Playing the game. That's the game. They both knew it. You know, they both knew that whole game and they got it down good. Oh, they did. Absolutely.
[00:16:43] You were listening to should I told my hairdresser. Welcome back. Jason. Tell us about the hate mail policy. Oh, thanks for asking hostage. Number two. Now I'm going to speak directly to hostage. Number one. That's you. Listener person. We actually have a new emails info at shit. I told my hairdresser. Dot com. We got a little professional now. So we have a professional email. That means we actually pay for it. Not nice. Yeah.
[00:17:11] If you guys don't mind, go through and send us your hate mail to info at shit. I told my hairdresser. Dot com. Also go through and smash up those likes wherever you get this podcast. Go through and give us a review. Hit those stars up on there and tell us how much you either love us or you hate us. One of the other. Because next week, Rash, I'm going to be going through and talking about a couple of emails people have sent us. One voicemail, one email. Definitely getting an increase in Australia. And you know who I'm talking to.
[00:17:40] But we're hitting all the way down that little island owned by England. That's amazing. Yeah. I know. So it's getting all over the place now. So I can't complain. It's been really, really nice. But also Los Angeles. We're going to have another email from Los Angeles. So we're going to go through and cover that next week. Next week. But first, before we get into those emails, we're going to talk about creepers. Again? Creepy guys. There's a lot of them out there.
[00:18:09] This is creepy guy part two. You know. You want to know what though? It seems like here in Seattle, we not only have serial killers, but we have a big selection of creepy dudes. Maybe they're in training for the killing. I don't know. Something in the water up here. It's how they start off. Yeah. And it's being real creepy guys. So you have another one. Well, here's the odd thing of it.
[00:18:39] We did talk about this in a previous episode about a guy who came in sat in my chair and was talking about one of the girls inside the salon. And he was trying to figure out a way how to get to talk to her and get her Instagram. I remember that. He wanted to stalk her. Correct. That's what it was. He, and like, he wasn't hiding it either. He would basically, he's like, how can I stalk her? Yeah. She's really hot or something, you know? And so, yeah. Well, guess what?
[00:19:09] She got another one of those. Oh, the same one? Same girl. She, she, she got, like, here's a. Well, the cute girl. It hits it again. It's it again from another guy. Okay. I'm a different guy. So last week she actually came to me in the back room. She was Jason. Hey, I would like to talk to you. I want to get some advice. And I was like, yeah, of course. Sure.
[00:19:33] And she goes, Hey, uh, so I've been asking around inside the salon and I need to know how to handle this guy who came and saw me for a haircut. About, I'm going to say about a month ago or so. I go, what happened? And she was like, well, he's sitting in my chair and he's like, this guy asked me out and it was like really uncomfortable. I don't want to go out with this guy. And I told him no.
[00:19:58] She's like, but he asked me three times, like three different ways, you know, to go out with her. And I'm like, what was like, was it a coffee or she was like, no, for like a cocktail. You know what cocktail means? Yeah. Coffee can be one thing or the other. It could be a friendly thing or, you know, cocktail is like, let's lower the inhibitions. Let's get some alcohol inside you. Yeah. And I'm like, oh. Right to it. I'm like, what? Okay.
[00:20:27] I'm like, who is this guy? She's like, he's like, so listen, he's, he's number one. He's married. He's like late forties, maybe like 48, 49 years old, two kids. I was wondering, and this girl's like 20. Correct. So he's like in his late forties. Has no business asking her out. Number one. Married. Even if he was single, has no business. Probably has a dad body and everything. You know, it's like. Where's Tommy Bahama shirts on the weekends? He's not interested at all.
[00:20:56] Yeah. No, no. Like unless someone's looking for a daddy at that age, like he's, that's what he wants. I think. I think so. Yeah. He wants to be a daddy. But here's the thing. He knows that she lives with her boyfriend. She has a very serious boyfriend. I met this guy before. Great fucking guy. Really cool. Outgoing. He knows it. He doesn't know about. He's asking her out anyway.
[00:21:24] But he also works with someone that her boyfriend knows. So that's what makes it worse. That he knows she's in a long-term relationship. He knows that she lives with him. You know, and. What a piece of shit. Exactly. So what if she had said yes? You know, it's like he would, he would have just like fucked over everybody. You know, like all the people he knows. He doesn't care about that. Doesn't care. He has a mission to whatever it is.
[00:21:53] You know, who knows? Wow. I don't know. But I looked at her and I go, okay, number one, I'm like, I'm creeped out right now. I'm already like uncomfortable. She goes, oh, I am too. So I'm really uncomfortable. She goes, but I've been asking everyone inside the salon. Like, what should I do? And everyone's like, well, he's paying money to go through and have his haircut. Just cut his hair. Just take his money. And I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
[00:22:21] They should be feeling uncomfortable as much as you are right now. And they're not. Their advice to you is just take his money. Flirt with them. Yeah. Yeah. Why not? No big deal. You know what it is? These people who she's asking, no one's, no one's asking them out. Oh, yeah. I didn't think about that. Yeah. So they're like lucky, you know, someone's asking you out. You should roll with it. That's what it is. Ooh, I didn't think about it that way. You're right. Yeah.
[00:22:50] So they're having bad advice. Very bad advice. You know? And it's like, oh, just like, you know, becoming get that, get a stiffer backbone or something like that. No, you feel uncomfortable. And this guy is relentlessly asking. I mean, if someone told you no once, the answer's no. You don't keep asking or find three different ways or two different ways I had to ask the same question. The answer was very clear at the beginning.
[00:23:19] It's no. But then everyone else is kind of backing it up. We're like, well, go ahead. Let's keep doing it. And I looked at her and I go, no, they should be as offended as you are. I'm all. And the fact that they're not kind of tell you that there's something wrong. You know, you don't just tell girls like, oh, just buck up. You know what I mean? Like, you know, be. Put up with it. This is putting up with this actual harassment is what it is.
[00:23:47] You know, women need to back other women up on this. You know what I mean? A lot more. And that's kind of not what happened. That wasn't advice that she got. And I think that's the reason she actually went through and came to ask me and sought out my advice was like, what do you think? And I'm like, as soon as you started telling me what was going on, I was like, fuck this. Absolutely not. I would. She actually went. Actually, she did it, too. She blocked him from making appointments inside the salon.
[00:24:15] And then she's like, I guess he got her cell phone number and was texting her because a lot of people give out their cell phone numbers. Yeah. The clients. I do. I have clients that text me all the time, but I'm a guy. That's different. He's texting her now or he was asking for was asking for another haircut. She didn't respond. And she finally said, listen, I stopped. She sent a text message saying I stopped doing men's haircuts. And I might. And then if he asked anything else, do not respond. She was like, I'm done. After that, I am done.
[00:24:45] I'm like, good. But she blocked him. No more coming in. Oh, yeah. You know, he's been texting all along anyway. Right. So like he's already blocked. But not from the salon to from the systems of the salon. So there's a way to block him from even booking appointments online. Oh, okay. So if he was trying to even book an appointment online, he has to call. Technology there. And then is that and then the front desk and actually they'll go through when they book the appointment. There's still be in the notes.
[00:25:14] Do not book with her. You know, and then blocked on the cell phone as well. The two where you can't get a hold of her anymore. Yeah. Because you try to make it as easy as possible for clients to go through and book appointments. Like. Yeah. But if you're a girl, you want to want. If it's someone that you trust and you know. Fine. If it, you know, if it's your brother or your cousin. Cool. You know what I mean? If it's some guy like this or do not give out your cell phone. Give him your email. Email's way safer. You know what I mean?
[00:25:43] That way, if it, you know, the email you three o'clock in the morning, it goes to email. It's not even that just so like he can email the salon and the salon can. Exactly. Relay a message or something like that. Yeah. It's. He'll have more of this. And so maybe now she'll know how to handle it a little better. Right. You know, but that was the thing. My main thing is just like, you know, if it makes you feel uncomfortable.
[00:26:12] Don't you don't have to do their hair anymore. You don't own clients and they don't own you. You don't owe anybody anything. Yeah. You know, and if they make you feel uncomfortable, get, be done with it. Say goodbye. Walk away. Fuck it. You're done. And now for shitology.
[00:26:38] The next time a middle-aged man relentlessly asks you out for drinks, knowing that you have a boyfriend, just say yes. And then bring your boyfriend along with you. Hey, nice meeting you. Thanks for getting us drinks. I made a reservation for three at the new Papua New Guinea restaurant down the street. And just keep asking over and over again, relentlessly until he says yes or runs away. I gotta go. My house is on fire.
[00:27:08] Yeah, that's what I thought. If you suddenly find yourself having lower standards and willing to do anything for money, maybe you should change your job title to hooker. You know who you are. And with that, stay shitty. Stay shitty. Hey, listener persons. If you're enjoying this podcast, please give us a rating on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, iHeartRadio, or Amazon Prime Podcasts, or wherever you get your favorite shit.
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