The Zodiac stylist Ep#74

[00:00:00] Where'd you get your operator's license? Folsom County Correctional Facility. I can't believe they let me in. I can't believe they let you out. Well, it's nice to see everybody on another episode of Shit.

[00:00:26] I told my hairdresser. Can you see me? You can see everyone? Sure. Everyone who's listening? Everybody. I'm the only one listening to you right now. And that's exactly who I'm talking to. Well, you did. I'm delusional. Everyone. I am everyone. I'm in my state of psychosis. As usual. Right. Let me ask you something. What is up with drugs and hairdressers?

[00:00:55] Why do they go hand in hand? And why do we have so many stories about that? It's because it's everywhere we go. It's every hair salon. But why hair salons are like that? We used to work for a crackhead. I know. Well, listen. We talked about that. Maybe more than we know. And I think I have a reason why. You know, it's like just the type of person who wants to always party. And it's if they knew how to play music well, they would have a band.

[00:01:24] Well, I think that pretty much sounds like that. They would act the same way and do the same drugs. And there's only one problem. What? We don't have the money. Hairdressers are rock stars without the money. Yeah. That's what they think they are. You know what I mean? It's just that we don't have enough money to take us to rehab 10 times. See, but some of them act like they have a lot of money. Well, that's the psychosis from the freaking drugs that they're doing. Exactly. Well, they live like they have a lot of money. Absolutely.

[00:01:52] And I'm talking like rock and level money, not somebody makes $100,000 a year to inherit. You know, whatever. No. They actually have millions. Yeah. Yeah. And they talk like they have millions. Yeah. And here's the thing, though. This isn't like when you think of the hairdressers that are doing drugs or whatnot, this isn't like some little hair salon, you know what I mean? In like the Valley or Topanga Canyon or some shit where they're like doing meth in the back or something like that.

[00:02:21] I'm talking like some major, major hair salons where people are doing heroin while they're working. Yeah. So I went to teach a class and I don't even know if the salon's even there. But it was a two-story, gaudy salon. They had like gold cherubs on the ceiling or something like that. It's called Umberto's. And it was an institution for years in Beverly Hills. It's probably still around. I don't know, though.

[00:02:48] I haven't been to downtown Beverly Hills in a very long time because we never went. It was like you stayed away from that. No one went there. Yeah. No. Tours go there. By the time I worked there, you know, it's like you didn't want to have your salon in a downtown area of Beverly Hills. Like Chris McMillan's was outside in the neighborhood. And so that's where you wanted to be. And he's technically in Beverly Hills. And whoever opened up after that, they opened up in West Hollywood.

[00:03:17] No one went to Beverly Hills anymore. No one. Your nana went to Beverly Hills, got her hair done. Because they thought they were important. That was it. Something weird happened there. And no one I know wants any part of it. But I went to go teach a class. This is back when I worked for that. We were that large company. And there was three of us that went up there. And it was just, I mean, seriously, I've never walked into a salon like this.

[00:03:42] It was like Gianni Versace kind of like did like the details in gold on the outside. It was so gaudy. Yeah. It was two stories that was fucking huge. You know? And there was a person over here still doing roller sets. I was like, oh, great. This is what we're kind of getting into. So like your nana was going there to get her hair done. And we teach this class. And it was super. Yeah.

[00:04:07] It was super awkward, you know, because we're doing all these like edgier haircuts from the collection from London. And they were looking at us like we were out of our fucking minds. Like they don't do hair like that there. They didn't. They didn't. It's not realistic. Why did you even go? You know, it's like they're not. They were paying us. They were paying us. They wanted to do like. They want to know what's new. They wanted to know what's new, but they kind of wanted to do a new like educational overhaul

[00:04:35] for their salon because the clientele was like dying because it's basically turning into God's waiting room. You know what I mean? It was just kind of like everyone was kind of dying off. Like needed to bring in fresh blood. So I thought like if we do kind of like a little overhaul and kind of freshen up our look a little bit more and maybe start doing some edgier haircuts will attract a different clientele to downtown Beverly Hills, which no, not going to happen. Yeah.

[00:04:59] But afterwards, a few of the women took us out for drinks after we did the class and we're sitting there talking. Lucky you. No. No. Um, okay. But we were, we were sitting there talking and they were talking about this guy that was there earlier had left and they go, Oh, he probably needs to go score. And I looked over at her and I was like, Oh, is that bad? Is he jones and hard? She was like, Oh, you don't even know half the story.

[00:05:25] So this guy, she's like, I've seen it happen to where this guy has been going through and doing a highlight on a client. And these are women's paying a lot of money because these salons have like some high rent. This is back in the day. And they're paying like 300 bucks for a full set of highlights. And I'm talking like 20 years ago, 20 years. So that was like 20, a decent amount of money. Six, seven years ago, I think is what it was. Right.

[00:05:49] So she said that this guy would come in and you can always tell when he'd been using because he would kind of start to nod off. And one time it happened to where he actually nodded off right in the middle of doing a highlight. And he actually fell asleep and put his head slowly. Just kind of, you seen the people who are in heroin, they kind of move really, really slow. And his head went down. He put his head directly on top of her head was smashing the foils and was out.

[00:06:19] Standing up. Completely out. See, now that happens nowadays with the people on fentanyl. Yeah. I see that almost every day standing at the corner or whatever. And her slouched over, I guess you could say. Exactly. That's exactly what it looks like. Yeah. But this was a long time ago. So that was heroin. This was just straight up heroin. Yeah. Totally different thing. And this girl I was talking to, she said she looked over and the woman is like trying

[00:06:48] to get anyone's attention and doesn't know what to do. She's trying not to scream, but she's just crying. And so she walked over and like put her hand on the guy's back and he woke up and he just started continuing to do the highlight. Like there was no big deal. I'm like, you have got to be fucking kidding me. She's like, no. She didn't miss a beat. Charged her. And like nothing happened. She's like, they never talked about it. So how was he still working there after that? You know, it's LA. If you're making money, they don't give a fuck. They don't give a fuck.

[00:07:17] If you're making money and the client's probably not saying something, you know what I mean? They're like, they don't give a shit. Do you remember in LA? You know what I mean? It was like, I know. You went to plan these salons and it's like, how do you still work here? So looking back at it though, I'm like, why would anyone let that happen? And it's just the way it was, you know, like if you walk in a Harris salon, it's like, you know what you're getting into and if you don't, you're about to find out. Yeah. And it was the same anywhere that was anywhere you went like that.

[00:07:46] In fact, I had a guy who, this is the guy who taught me how to make shake and bake meth, who was sober and he would come in with a crew of guys. Taught you how or told you? Told me how, told me how, not taught me, told me. You're right. Sounds like he's like showing you how to do it. No. And you're like, Hey, look what we did together. Together. Yay. Everyone have a bump. But he was sober and he would come in with his crew of guys that were in the program and

[00:08:15] in a program because they knew if he walked into a hair salon, all it takes is one little look from somebody and a quick little nod and he'll know exactly where to go. And they'll, you know, some cute girl, take him to the bathroom and give him whatever the fuck he wants. So hair salons are famous for it. It's absolutely famous. Even one of the owners from the big company we used to work for. I remember like you just go to the front desk and the girls at the front desk were selling you straight out of the till.

[00:08:42] They'd open up the tail and pull out a bindle for you and just sell it to you right there. Yeah. They would fly in from London and go like, Hey, you know, where can I get like a bundle? Like, Oh, just ask girl to French. I'm pretty, I'm pretty sure she has them. Yeah. Look for the one that looks like she's almost comatose. You know what I mean? I'm like, it's like a little wooden Indian standing there with the red hair sticking up, you know, not moving. I'm all she's, she's like comatose over there. You know, she's on something good. Go ask her. I know she has a question girl. Yeah, exactly.

[00:09:09] But I had another girl in one of my shops that I had to go through and fire because exact same thing, but she wouldn't nod off like on the client's head. She would nod off at the product station. So when she would walk over to go look at the product, all of a sudden she would just start nodding off and I have to go like behind her and go like, Hey, are you okay? Oh yeah, I'm fine. And it was like, what in the hell is going on? So we needed a nap. Oh yeah. Yeah. Because I don't know when it's happened.

[00:09:38] When does that happen where it's like the heroin starts to make you fall asleep? I don't know. I've never done that. I don't know. But I would imagine if she would only do that over there, she knows when she's like feeling like, okay, I just need to close my eyes a second. And then she nods off and then she knows no one will know, or she's hoping no one will notice. She's just trying to find, um, hairspray. Hmm. Yeah. Which one is. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:10:07] And then here you come. This is a good time for a nap. There's no hairspray over here. And then you show up and ruin her nap. I mean. While she's standing up. That was the weirdest thing. They would fall asleep standing up. I don't see how they do it. That's like, um, I'll see them at the corner or like at the bus stop and they're just like slunch over and they're standing. Yeah. They never fall over. I wish I could get that kind of sleep. Now that's like, you know what I mean? And then like, yeah, I have trouble. I mean, I need that kind of sleep.

[00:10:36] I'm wide awake and I just like, hope I can slouch over and just like get the Z's in. Um, so this girl, um, who's like napping. What was it though? Heroin? Is it? Yeah. It was definitely heroin. Because it was more recent. How do you know it wasn't like fentanyl? No. Cause someone did tell me it was, she actually got some help and she is sober now. And she actually told me because after that point I was like, listen, we need to have a serious chat. So what was happening?

[00:11:05] Like she's shooting it up? No, freebasing it. Freebasing. So a client would like come inside the salon. One of her clients would. She would consult with them and do a weird consultation and then walk to the back, grab her jacket, walk outside. They drop it on tinfoil and then they light it up with a lighter off the tinfoil and then like go through and like suck the fumes through like a pipe. Yeah. Shoot freebasing the heroin and then come back inside the salon.

[00:11:33] I think it's, uh, just smoking heroin, not like freebasing. That's something else. I think that's what you do with cocaine. I think, I don't know. I don't know. Well, if you're smoking it off of a piece of tinfoil, I mean, that's like you're smoking the fumes. You could do it however you wanted. It's just like you could smoke it, snort it, shove it up your booty. It's kind of hit you differently. I don't know. All she told me is that she was actually smoking it off of a piece of tinfoil because she admitted to me afterward after she got sober.

[00:12:03] No, she'd walk out the door. She'd leave a client after she said she was going to mix up their color and then just walk out the front door, go smoke it, go get a cup of coffee. That was like a coffee shop, literally like a half a block away from us. And then come back with the coffee. Client's like, where the fuck did you go? She goes, oh, I'm just getting your, I was getting, I was mixing your color and needed a cup of coffee. She decided that she didn't think of this like, uh, before the client showed up or no. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

[00:12:30] So she would wait for, I mean, I don't know what it was, but she would always do something like that. And I was like watching her going like, what is going on? Not only that though, we have coffee here. Well, we have coffee inside the salon. He doesn't like those. They are shitty beans. You guys have or whatever the hell you, wait, she's walking. Do you remember the girl who would walk out during a haircut and then go get like a snack and then walk in? Eating the sneakers bar? This is another level.

[00:13:00] Yes. There's a whole nother level of that. Yeah. The craving is totally different. It's something completely different. Well, one has a sugar addiction and the other's a heroin addiction. Exactly. So I tell you, it was just, it got messy inside the salons and they still are. You know what I mean? It's like, it's innocent. It doesn't matter if it's in Seattle or if it's in Beverly Hills, it's everywhere. Why does it follow you around? Do you need to tell me something?

[00:13:30] Are you a dealer? Did you not know? I did hear. Did you hear that story about me? I did hear a rumor. Yep. Yeah. I had an old partner, I guess you could say, who after our partnership ended. Business partner, not a sexual partner. And she developed a pretty big problem later on. And of course she needed to go through and blame the reason the partnership broke apart

[00:13:58] was because I was the reason it broke apart. And she was on a photo shoot and she did not know that the lead makeup artist was a friend of mine and that we were still in contact with her. She knew that we were friendly, but she didn't know that we still talked. And so when they broke for lunch, she was kind of like, Hey, like what happened? What was going on? She was like, Oh, well, I need to tell you something about Jason.

[00:14:25] She's like, come to find out there was a private investigator that was hired by one of his clients because he, he's like, the guy was suspicious of Jason because they, he thought that he was having an affair. I was having an affair with this guy's wife and come to find out that private investigator found us like somewhere having sex. And I'm like, what? Yeah.

[00:14:51] I'm like, with one of my client's wives, I'm like, okay. And she goes, but that's not it. That's not the whole story. There's more? And she's like, really? Oh, there's more. There's more besides that. Cause that is like part of it. But I was working for the Mexican mafia and I was a black tar heroin dealer. I knew it. Yep. I just wanted to hear you say it. Exactly.

[00:15:18] And I remember she is texting me from the photo shoot going like, what? I don't know what you're doing today. I don't know what you're doing today later on the day, but you and I need to talk. She's like, because I heard the craziest story about you. And because of my ties with the Mexican mafia and dealing black tar heroin and like all this shit is a reason why everything broke apart and how people are coming after me now. And I'm on the run and moving to Seattle. And I was like, what?

[00:15:49] Oh my God. So I'm starting a new business in a different city because I'm like, I would be seriously, if I was dealing black tar heroin, I wouldn't be waking up at 430. You wouldn't wake up at all. Exactly. Probably be dead. Yeah. Listen, if I, um. Getting the sleep that I need. Finally. And if I were a Mexican mafia, I wouldn't have anything to do with you.

[00:16:19] And we're back. All right. So I had a client who moved to LA. I want to say just before COVID and you were no longer in Los Angeles because she was looking for a hairdresser to cut her hair. And, uh, unfortunately you weren't there. So we were kind of looking around for people for her to go through and see. I think the area that she was in, I really didn't know anybody. I think it was up in the Valley because who the fuck goes to the Valley? I don't know.

[00:16:49] Like any hairdressers who work up there or. Or if it even exists. I think it's just like a mythical place that. They even mention it. I just turn around and walk away. Exactly. Yeah. So she did find a hairdresser and the hairdresser that she found had like an intake kind of a thing that she sent out via email. And of course it asked like, you know, what are we looking for? What kind of haircut are you looking for? What are your current photos of your hair right now?

[00:17:19] Which sometimes they do have that. That's annoying. I think, you know, it's like just go in and have the consultation then. Yeah. But there's certain people now that don't want to do that. Even I have had clients via like Instagram send me. Who doesn't want to do that? Photos. Some people don't, they don't want to come in for the consultation. They'd rather you do it on like Instagram. So they'll show me photos of themselves. Are these the ones who like answering a phone makes them anxious? Yes. They don't answer the phone. They don't want to say anybody.

[00:17:49] Correct. Fuck them. Who cares? So what they'll do is they'll send me a picture of themselves currently, then a photo of their inspiration. And of course I tell them the best thing to do would be to, if you really want your haircut by me, would be to come in so I can actually see your hair. It takes five minutes and it's free. I don't charge for a consultation, but this was like an intake kind of a email. Like, you know, tell me what you're, what you want your hair to do.

[00:18:16] But it wasn't just that she also wanted the astrological sign of the client and something about like, do you believe in crystals or something to that effect? Right. I didn't get to see the entire email, but she sends me a message saying, is this normal? You know, she moved from Seattle to LA and I go, no, I've never had that happen. I've never asked. I'm like, I've been doing this girl's hair for years. I'm like, I've never asked you for your astrological sign.

[00:18:46] So does she was asking if it's normal, if someone doing a haircut wants to know if you believe in crystals and everything? Is that what it is? Or just even like an intake email. You know what I mean? Anyone asking me that, that's not normal. No. No matter what they do for a living. So. Exactly. So it's just, I don't know if she has any type of weird, like anxiety issues or needs to know up front ahead of time on what she's going to be doing.

[00:19:15] And so it's like, I've seen that happen with some certain hairdressers. Like, Hey, you cut this girl's hair before what she like, you know? And I'm like, I, she's a person cut her hair. You know what I mean? It's like, well, I've never met her before. I'm like, so what? She's alive. She's breathing. She's walking in. She has hair. Cut it, you know, do a consultation with her and figure out what she wants. You know, don't get all weird. Like, you know, ask me 20 questions or see pictures. He wants to know, I'm assuming it's a girl. Yes. This is a girl.

[00:19:44] So, um, she's asking all this, uh, to know what she's dealing with, you know? And sure. We know someone who does, uh, things like that for color and he decides if he wants to do it or not, or maybe he doesn't know how to do it. Maybe he knows he'll mess it up. So he doesn't do it. Maybe that's what she's doing. It could be that. But the weird thing on top of it was the astrological sign. Yeah. You know what I mean?

[00:20:11] Like asking about that because this girl goes through and does the haircut according to your astrological sign. And I don't know if like, you know, you know how they do like the, the pictures, the Polaroids or something like that. I'm like, is she going to do that too? She's like, I don't know. She's like, but I do, I did see some of her work and now I'm so intrigued. I have to go and find out. I'm like, okay, cool. Go and check it out. Do your haircut according to your astrological sign.

[00:20:42] I did actually notice Jason, you have really nice Libra layers. Thank you. So yeah. Yeah. My three little layers. I'm going to get my Leo layers. I'm going to get Leo layers. Exactly. So what are you using that? So she answered the questions and then she went in. Yeah. She went in for the haircut. Okay. Right. So I guess it went fine. It was okay.

[00:21:11] She was like, I wasn't thrilled with the haircut, but she was like, okay, but she'll be, here's her name. So you need to go through and look her up. And I'm like, okay, that's kind of odd. So she sends me a name and I Google it and you're not going to believe who this girl is. Someone we know. Oh boy. No, it's not. It's someone a lot of people know because she used to, she was the leader of the bling ring. So she was. I've heard of that.

[00:21:41] I don't know her name. I don't think I ever knew. I knew he's Asian and it's possibly like all fake looking, you know, it's like, maybe I don't know about that. I mean, I saw a picture. She looked normal. You know what I mean? But that's who she was. That actually is her. Wait, I thought she's now a hairdresser. Yeah. She's out. And now she's a hairdresser. I don't think those guys got a ton of time, but now she's a hairdresser. Now she's doing hair.

[00:22:11] And now she has a little like gimmicky frigging like, you know, I need to see your ash. I need ash. Of course she does. You need crystals. Listen. It's such a gimmick. These people like her and we know others like this, they don't know how to make an honest living and no matter what they do, they are not happy unless they are screwing someone over. Somehow. Somehow.

[00:22:39] And the reason really is they want to prove they are smarter than somebody else, you know? Right. That's where the drive comes in. You know, it's not that. Well, they don't know how to make money any other way. No, because look how she started off her career in the first place. That's what I'm saying. From stealing from other people. That's my point. She was stealing from like the Hiltons and Logan. She has a license to do it a different way. Exactly.

[00:23:08] Wait, are they offering like cosmetology school in prison? I don't know. Is that what they're doing now? It seems like everything that we've been talking about, it seems like that's where a lot of people have been getting their start. You know what I mean? At the cosmetology school at, you know, at Rikers or something, you know, because it's getting crazy. Rikers cosmetology. Exactly. And more. Yeah. San Quentin.

[00:23:36] You know, learn how to do braids here in San Quentin. Oh, God. But that's the thing that everyone has to have. They're looking for this niche or whatever they can go through and get people through the door. You know, and it's like, come on, an astrological sign. And obviously she went there one time and then that was it. She actually came back up to Seattle to actually have her hair recut by me. Yeah.

[00:24:01] So it wasn't, it wasn't anything that anything special or yeah, she didn't get the Leo layers or Libra layers. I get it. I don't even think you even have crystals on your station or anything. Do you? Do I? Yeah. No. I know. No, I have a blow dryer and a comb and a pair of scissors is what I have. Okay. That's why you're doing bad haircuts. Hey, you want to want, there it is, isn't it? Yeah. That just kind of, you know, solidifies it. Here's the thing.

[00:24:31] You don't need a gimmick. You don't need to go through and like, you know, separate yourself out from the, you want to separate yourself out, do good work, do good color, do good haircuts. You know what I mean? Don't get a gimmick. You don't need it. All right. Quit lying to people. This is how I, where do you learn how to do an astrological haircut? That's what I'd like to know. You know what I mean? It's like, oh, I'm separating myself from the crowd. You know what I mean?

[00:24:58] So that way I can be so different from everybody else. He's the first. And I know that if they were really ought to be themselves, no one would like them. There it is. Yep. And now time for Shitology brought to you by Folsom Correctional's Beauty College. Serving time. Got nine more months to go.

[00:25:25] Not sure what to do when you get out of there. How about beauty college? What's another 1500 hours? You can do that in your sleep. Now you can serve a life sentence of doing hair and holding sharp objects to people's heads. Legally this time. And if your clients are liking your haircuts, give them something that they will like. Like black tar heroin. You'll have a customer for the rest of their lives. And they'll never even notice that shitty haircut or those fry lights you gave them.

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