The Realest Hair Podcast on the Internet
Welcome back to another episode of Sh!t I Told My Hairdresser, where real stylists spill the unfiltered truth behind the chair — the good, the bad, and the chemically burnt. Hosted by Jason Townsend and Jack, two seasoned hairstylists who’ve seen it all, this week’s episode dives deep into the chaos of the beauty industry’s favorite scam: “Fake it till you make it.”
Whether it’s a client pretending they “always” use heat protectant (they don’t), or a salon owner pretending their business isn’t crumbling faster than a bad bleach job — this episode exposes it all with sharp wit, brutal honesty, and some very real experience.
💅 When “Fake It Till You Make It” Goes Too Far
You’ve probably heard it before — “Fake it till you make it!”
It’s the motivational mantra of scammers, delusional salon owners, and bad colorists everywhere.
As Jason puts it, “If you don’t know how to do it, don’t fake it. Quit telling people you can do their hair — and just go fuck things up.”
In the salon world, pretending to “make it” means blowing smoke up your own balayage. You’ll find owners who swear they’re “about to turn it all around” right before the lights go out — literally.
The truth? Real stylists don’t fake it. We work, learn, screw up, and get better.
That’s how you actually make it.
💇♂️ The Ghost Town Salon: A Cautionary Tale
Jason recalls a once-busy salon that was “rocking until it wasn’t.”
It’s the same story stylists across the country know too well: the boss keeps insisting things are “great!” while the shelves get emptier, the phones stop ringing, and the only thing full is their delusion.
“When you hear, ‘Oh, I’ve got a couple of stylists starting soon,’ that’s code for: I have no one left.”
These are the warning signs that your salon might be circling the drain — and your paycheck with it.
🚩 Red Flags Your Salon Is Faking It
The front desk is gone, and you’re suddenly answering phones between blowouts.
The retail shelves are bare, and the “distributor” is conveniently “late.”
The owner keeps saying things are “turning around soon.”
They start blaming AI for doing three receptionists’ jobs — spoiler: it’s a voicemail.
You’re told to “trust the process,” but your paycheck says otherwise.
Sound familiar? You’re not alone. Stylists everywhere are waking up to the bullshit.
👀 The “Blowout Gate” Incident: When Clients Come With Secrets
Not every fake-it moment comes from owners — sometimes, it’s from clients.
Jason tells a wild story about a man booking two “blowouts for his daughters” who turned out to be… not his daughters. Let’s just say the vibe was less family day, more escort service field trip.
The girls arrived dressed like they were headed to a Vegas afterparty, not a hair salon in Bellevue. When the “dad” refused to give their names and acted like a human red flag, Jason started to wonder if this was a case of human trafficking or just high-end prostitution.
“By the time the second one walked in, we realized they were probably trying to recruit people. Everyone in the salon was staring like, ‘What the hell is happening?’”
Salon life isn’t just cuts and colors — sometimes it’s full-on CSI: Beauty Edition.
🪞 Behind the Chair Truth: Experience Over Illusion
This is where Sh!t I Told My Hairdresser shines — it’s not theory, it’s lived experience.
Both hosts have decades of salon time, celebrity encounters (hello, Reese Witherspoon), and way too many “WTF” stories to count.
That’s why their insights land — they’re not influencers, they’re industry veterans who’ve lived through exploding perms, diva clients, and delusional bosses.
Their advice?
Don’t fake it. Don’t stay in a toxic salon. And never trust a stylist who promises platinum blonde in one sitting.
💬 Real Talk: Stylists Are the Salon’s Backbone
Salon owners love to say, “You’re nothing without us.”
But the truth is the opposite.
“They’re nothing without you — and they know it. You smell that? That’s fear.”
Stylists are the talent, the therapists, and the reason clients come back. When a salon’s energy shifts, when the lies start piling up, and when the shelves go bare — it’s time to move on. And as this episode proves, the only thing faker than bad hair extensions is a fake-it-till-you-make-it salon.
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[00:01:00] Hello everybody and welcome back to another episode of Shit. Jack's Gonna tell me, Jack, I think you got some stuff to go through and, uh, tell me this week because um, I think you fucked up last week on some stuff.
We have some corrections actually.
that's a nice way of putting it. I think you fucked shit up and you have to go through and tell people the truth now.
it like that. I, just. That they're, um, are updates. Um, it turns out that Gene Simmons of Kiss is not
Oh,
yet.
should, well, too bad.
that's
I mean, no, that's good. Okay.
yeah. Yeah. I'm, geez,
there's a, there's a, I, there's a story we gotta tell. Talk about him anyhow, here in the near future. He's a dick. He's such a dick. So I don't, I don't think he'd be missed by many.
there's another correction. Uh, we [00:02:00]
No.
And they're not all dead. Irish has a, people are not So,
I was looking at our analytics and uh, there are, I can tell you right now, there are people listening in Ireland right now. 'cause I'm actually looking at our, so I guess they are still there.
Yeah.
Woo. Whoops.
that? Happy to
Sorry, Ireland.
I'm really happy to hear that.
um, however, Timothy, I'm just, hell not sure about that at all. Uh,
Jury's still out.
is the, I guess, yeah.
I'm okay with that.
I don't know what's up with him or her. Um, so,
Yeah. Excuse me, Mr. Ma'am, whatever. Uh, anyhow,
sir
Diane Keon passed away, which sucks. You know what I mean? It was like, why couldn't have been Jean? Why her? You know what I mean? She was. Probably the sweetest lady
Yeah.
I've met who's coming outta the salon and she was just like the nicest person.
[00:03:00] She
Oh
Yeah.
yeah.
just love to see her a around, you know, it's like she's always happy and she's always talking out of the colorist who was also her friend, like really good friend
Jonathan,
Jonathan Gale. Yeah.
I loved him. He was, he was a really good guy.
he was really cool too.
Yeah. But every time she came and inside the salon, she was one of those type of people. She was always just like really sweet. Beaming almost. If someone could beam, that would be her. You know what I mean? She definitely was like that. So she was really, really sweet.
So she'll be missed. But speaking of Dick's, like, uh, Jean, um, I'll get back to you Jean. Don't worry about that. We, we definitely have a story to talk about about you. That was an, that was, that was, that was an interesting night. Um, but I had something happen just a couple of weeks ago at the salon. It was another dick.
That came into the salon and I walked in. I normally get there about like nine o'clock in the morning and the, the manager walks over to [00:04:00] me and she is like, Hey, uh, I got a phone call this morning. This woman wanted to book with you. And I'm like, great. So go ahead and book the appointment. And she goes, well, no, this is a new appointment.
And he was very clear he wanted to make the appointment with you. And I'm like. All right. And she goes, I'm like, so was it for him? And she was like, no, it was for his daughters and he wanted a very specific time and you didn't have that time open.
Hmm.
I'm like, all right. And she's like, he needed a couple of blow drives for his daughters and you, and the only time you actually had, you had like a small period, like a small appointment open at the end of the day, and that was it.
And I'm like, yeah. And he goes, but he had two, two of them that want to come in. And get their hair blown out. I'm like, well give them to somebody else. He goes, there's no, he wants to only see you. I'm like, who the fuck is this guy?
Hmm.
You know? And I'm like, you know, what's the name? Is he, did he say who referred them to me?
She's like, no. So in fact he was just like, he's really super mean too. It [00:05:00] was like I needed this appointment and, and you know, I said I can talk to Jason. but I, he's like, he is booked. There's the, he can't get you in at this time. There's just no way.
he was rude about it
Oh, he was being very rude.
doesn't even know you.
No, I was like, I need an 11 o'clock appointment.
I need an 11 and 12. She goes, he doesn't have anything until literally the end of the day at like five. You that's all that he has.
Yeah,
well, and you, well tell him that I needed 11. It's like, who the fuck are you? And I told her, I'm like, well, you can call him back and say no, but you know, he is like, well, it's just like for his two daughters.
And I'm thinking to myself like, okay, if it's for two daughters, I don't know what, what do they have going on? Maybe it's got like a birthday party or some shit. You know what I mean? I dunno. Maybe, you know, can I do two blow drives at the end of the day? I'm like, fine, I'll do the two blow drives at the end of the day.
He's got a couple of girls need to get in. I'm like, I don't know what's, what's happening at birth? Who knows? Fine, I'll do it. You know. So she call, she calls him back up again and was like telling him like, no, Jason said he can't do it [00:06:00] this time, but he can do the two at the end of the day, and that's it.
Mm-hmm.
You know, can you, can you give me the names of your daughters? He goes, no. Okay, so well, can we book under your name? Then he goes, yeah, I don't want you knowing my daughter's names.
Oh my God. What?
Now I am think, 'cause I'm standing there now kind of listening to the conversation and I'm thinking that, okay, this might be a personal assistant of somebody that is trying to book appointments, but normally PAs are really, really nice.
You know what I mean? This guy was being a total dick and he's saying it's his daughters.
Yeah.
And 'cause I was thinking like maybe this is someone who needs security, right? I mean, I'm like already like kind of skeptical at this point, you mean? But I'm like, okay, just book them, get the credit card. Let's make sure it works and like just book the appointment.
Right. And we'll see how it goes. And now I am fucking dreading the end of the day. Because I'm like, I don't know what I'm [00:07:00] getting into at this point. So it was just kind of fucking weird. The front desk, we were all kind of prepared when they walked in to kinda like suss out the situation and kind of see what's going on.
Right. And it's just like there is, it is one of those things where you're looking forward to the last client at the end of the day so you can go home and I am fucking dreading it
opposite that.
yes, every moment that it got closer and closer, I was like, oh, my heart just sank. So end of the day comes, this guy comes in and he's like, okay, like, where's Jason?
she was like, well, he's with a client, he'll be right out. and I was running a few minutes late, you know what I mean? Not crazy, like five minutes late. But he is like, where is he? You know, we gotta get this going. I wanted 11 o'clock and, you know.
fuck him.
So they walk, you know, walk over, they go, Hey, they're here.
And he's asking where you're at? And I'm like, well, you'll tell 'em I'll be there when I, when I'm there. you need to chill the fuck out. I'm squeezing two people in for you at the end of the day. tell me he needs to relax, right? So she went and conveyed the message and then he starts [00:08:00] vaping in the middle of the salon and she was like, uh, you can't do that in here.
And he is like, oh, whatever. And like walks out the door So she came back and told me what happened. I'm like, okay, I'll, I'll, I'll be there as soon as I can gun. Diffuse the situation,
He's the
you know?
like whatever happens in life is, a personal attack on him.
Absolutely. You know, and it was just like
it is. Yeah.
fucking weird. And I'm the only guy that works at the salon, so of course that's another guy. So I might as well go down over there and diffuse the situation.
Yeah.
I get up there and he's no longer there. And now I am, like, I check my last client out and I'm looking around looking for his daughter, and the receptionist points at this girl at the, at the sitting, at the couch.
He goes, that's her. He goes, but he made specific, he told us specifically not to ask their names. And I'm like, what?
up with, is going on here?
I don't know. And I'm like, oh, okay.
what happened.
So I look over and it's not a girl, it's a [00:09:00] girl. It is a girl. Don't get me wrong. Okay? But she's gotta be in her like mid to late twenties, and not only that though, the way she's dressed, or lack of, I should say. You know what I mean? She, dude. Had, I mean,
a
talking, it was all laid out, man.
I mean, I'm talking like barely wearing anything. And I'm like, I gotta look at her. I look at the, at the front desk, go, that's her, that's his daughter. And she goes, that's what he said. And he said not to ask her name. And I'm like, okay. And I'm like, this is a grown adult, you know? I'm like, how old's the guy?
And I looked at her and she was like, he had to be in his like maybe early thirties. I'm like, how the fuck is this? His daughter?
Oh
So now my, my brain is just going, I'm like, what the fuck is going on? So I'm like, you wanna what? I'm just gonna walk over to her. Oh, he totally is.
Yeah.
lying about this.
But then I'm like, you wanna what? And I go, I looked at the front desk and I go, listen, I'm gonna assess out the situation. I'm all because this, I don't [00:10:00] know what the fuck is going on. This girl looks like a hooker.
they're like kidnapped or
That's exactly what she, we were looking at each other and I said, if I, if you, if I need you to call the police, I'm like, I will let you know. And she goes, okay, well, because something doesn't feel right here. And so I walk over to this girl and I go, Hey, I'm Jason. And she goes, hi, I'm Danielle. I mean, I'm like, oh, oh, hi Danielle.
Yeah.
I'm like, I was asked not to ask for your name, and I didn't ask her name. All I did was just say, Hey, my name is Jason. And that was it. And she offered her name and she was just the sweetest, nicest
it's her
half naked girl.
probably her real name also,
Oh, I'm sure. It probably was. now I'm like, I don't what? I don't know what to think, this is fucking weird. So I said, let's get you into a robe, Because I gotta cover you up, you know what I mean? Because you can see everything. And I'm like, I get her into a robe.
I'm like, let's, let's get you [00:11:00] over and we'll get you shampooed and we'll do that and we'll talk about the blow dry. What do you want to do? And she's like, okay. Sweetest girl has her phone with her, by the way. Show me pictures how she wants her hair done. I'm like, oh, no problem. We can do this. You know, we get her shampooed happens to be like, I'm talking like really nice, but then as well is that she's like sending text messages to like her friends or whoever, you know, and then like, you know, and like sending like a video clip while I'm doing her hair and I'm like, okay, there's no, like, I thought for some reason maybe some human trafficking going on or something.
Nope. Nope.
out the window now
It totally is. She's on her social media. She's sending people like little clips of herself getting her hair done, and I'm like, what the fuck is going on?
She is. Okay. It's
Yeah.
guy who is not Okay.
Right. And then the second daughter comes walking in. Remember there's two,
Which one is her oldest daughter.
I don't know, but this one came in. I'm like, oh [00:12:00] yeah, you're related.
Yeah. It's like, like where did you two grow up?
Yeah, I know, right?
Yeah.
And so I was talking to 'em, I'm like, you know, so the other one comes up and then she comes over to my station and she's like, oh, this is my friend. You're gonna be doing her hair next, not sister friend, I'm like, okay. You know, and we, we, she told me what she wanted and I'm like, that's fine.
We'll when we're done, we'll get to you if you want to have a seat. And she's like wandering around the salon, talking to people that worked there. And she was like, oh, you're really pretty. Where are you from? Oh, do you work here? You're really pretty to everyone that she met. And I'm like looking at her going like, what the fuck is going on?
is she like, um, geez, how do I put this, uh, childlike,
No.
maybe?
No, no, just walking around and see, here's the thing. Every person, she made sure that she went to like an attractive person and asked to tell 'em that they were really pretty and where were they [00:13:00] from? You know, do you work here? Oh my God, you're really super pretty. And she walked over to me. She's like, everybody here is super pretty that works here.
They're really pretty. And I'm looking at her going like, what the fuck is going on? But I'm like, okay, all right. Sure. They're, yeah, they're really pretty. I'm just trying to do hair right, and then I'm like, Hey, so now I'm like, okay, I'm super getting super fucking curious. I'm like, where are you guys from?
Because obviously you guys are here like on vacation 'cause of the accents. And they're like, oh, we're from Israel. I'm like, oh, okay, cool. You're from Israel. Alright, that sounds cool. I'm like, oh, so you're, you're on vacation then, like, you know, you kind of touring around the United States or like, what are you guys doing?
And they're like, oh yeah, no, we're here for, you know, a couple of days here in Seattle in Bellevue. And like Bellevue is like the wealthier suburb of Seattle and that's where we're at,
Yeah.
right? And I'm like, oh, cool. I'm like, where else have you guys visited? And they're like, oh, we went to Los Angeles for a couple of days.
I'm like, oh, that must've been fun. He goes, yeah, yeah, fun. It was good. So they're doing like Los Angeles and then [00:14:00] they came to Seattle, and then in a couple of days they're going to Vegas. Then all of a sudden it hit me and I'm like, oh, you guys are the ho train. That's what's going on. Yep. LA
Alright.
Seattle.
'cause Seattle had, like we talked about earlier, we have a lot of prostitutes that come through the area, especially Bellevue. And these are some high end prostitutes and her friend that comes walking in again, same thing. Barely wearing anything. Everyone is staring at us. I'm talking the entire salon is like, what the fuck does Jason have going on over there
What are they doing there then? so like I know having their hair done, I'm they're going out.
or meeting up for? Well, no, 'cause they were just saying, oh, they said, oh, it was just dinner. but here's the thing though. The way that they were walking around and talking to people and getting their names, like, hi, you're really pretty. What's your name? And all of a sudden I noticed they're fucking [00:15:00] recruiting.
They were trying to recruit, they were going to the prettiest girls to the salon. Even what they were like to do, what they're doing too.
Huh?
I guar, I, it was something was just, it gave me this feeling like, you guys are, something's up. Something is weird. And I thought, I think they were inside the salon
mm-hmm.
trying to recruit other girls.
'cause they started asking them questions and like, well, what things do you work?
them or
Well, not, not yet. I think it was more of a setup right now. You know what I mean? Like right at the beginning, they're not asking 'em if they wanted to go out. But then they started asking me what days that I worked
Mm-hmm.
and I said, yeah, I only work like three days a week, you know, four days a week sometimes, you know, and they're like, okay.
Like, you know, can you do my hair on Sunday? And I'm like, no, no. Sunday's my family day. We'll, we'll pay you. And I'm like, no, cause I'm, I'm starting to feel really uncomfortable and I'm telling the other girl that Please stop talking to people while they're doing clients.
Yeah.
You know? And I'm like, something is just not right.
[00:16:00] Yeah. That is a little weird.
It's weird.
wandering around, walking up while people are working, you know,
Yeah.
like, who is this
then you have like these like 32 double Ds coming at you, And like this tiny little skirt and you're walking up to someone saying that they're really pretty while they're doing another client. And the client's going like, I'm going like, what the fuck are you doing? this girl's doing my hair.
Why are you talking to her?
I'm just trying to wrangle them in and like, you just kind of get 'em there. And I don't know, you know, but the, the, the front desk came over to me and she kinda looked at me and I go, don't call the police, but I'm trying to figure this out, I don't know. I can't put my finger on it yet, you know, and I'm
the guy at this
point? Here?
By the time I get to the second girl, he finally comes back.
Mm-hmm.
And I could tell he was super fucking hungover. I could tell. You know what I mean? And that explains the rage, you know what I mean? I, it looked like coke,
Yeah.
drinking. But it was just like he, he looked fucking ripe, And he finally comes outta the salon [00:17:00] and he sits on the couch, and then one of the other girls goes and sits right next to him when he's there.
Yeah.
And I'm like, okay, there's a fucking control thing going on. And I don't know what this is about, but at this point now I'm like, I just gotta get him the fuck out.
Basically he's a pimp,
Pretty much he had to have been, then the girls were like, they really liked the way I did her, their hair. Yeah.
I, I, bet you he just like, um, s like he learned about pps, you and everything, and he wants that.
Yeah, no shit. Right?
That's what I think.
But I'm sitting here and I'm like, finally, like I'm getting, I'm done with her hair. And they're both like, you know, like, well, can you come in on Sunday and do my hair? And I'm like, no, no, I have plans. I'm like, I'm, I'm not here. Like, well, why don't you come to the house? And they try to get me to come to their house.
I'm like, I am good. I'm like, no. I'm like, I don't think so.
say that the first time?
Yeah. Yeah. I was like, uh, nope. And they finally, and then the guy was like, [00:18:00] Hey Jason, thanks a lot, man. It's good to see you, buddy. And I was like, I don't know who the fuck you are.
you.
Yeah. I'm like, like, he's like
I was like,
trying to high five
him.
like we're friends.
No.
You never met him face to or anything. He just yelled this
Yeah.
the
Then he's like trying to like, gimme a high five and you know how you just leave someone hanging there? I was like, I'm like, Nope. I'm like, here, just pay. And I was like,
five
so something like, Hey, yo bro, kind of a thing, you know? I was like, no, no thank you. Nope. So I, I charged him 'cause it was a lot of work, so I charged him extra on top of it.
I was like, fuck you, And, uh, especially all the extensions and shit. and then they were gone. They were just gone. And I'm like, thank fucking God. I was like, and everyone was like, what in the fuck was that? Everyone's, the clients are talking. I'm talking like, it was insane, And it was just like, just get the fuck out.
You know, want my phone number? I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. You, if you wanna book another appointment, you can deal with the front desk or you, you know, book [00:19:00] it online. Like, I am not giving you my number. I dunno who the fuck you are. Just leave. It's now time for, this is your time for you to go. Now you've paid
Well, I hate to tell you, gave him your number.
good.
Mm-hmm.
about a week goes by. They're back in, but this time to the girls that they were talking to,
see. Did
right.
they hi to you or
Oh yeah, towards the end, you know, they said, they said, they did say hi to me and it was like, I literally gave hi and I walked, turn around, walked the other way. I'm like, I don't want anything to do with them.
But I mean, again, same thing with this guy. He's like pissed off, angry, yelling at the front desk and I was about to walk up there and say something. 'cause they were sitting in the area where people with the dryers are, where people with color sit with their, with their highlights.
Then they went to go sit in those chairs when clients needed them. And one of the clients that I know who is at the salon, like she's getting her hair blown out like [00:20:00] twice a week. So she knows everyone outside the salon. And she saw everything that was kinda happening and she's like walked over to the guy and she was like, uh, this is for clients and not just for people to wait.
She was like, waiting room was in the front. You want to get up? and he was like this Israeli guy and was not used to women. Talk to him like that. And let me tell you, you could just see like fumes coming off his little bald head. You know what I mean? It was just like, yeah, he was pissed.
You didn't mention he was bald.
Sorry, he's bald, so he, I didn't do his hair, so he's bald, right?
And he's walked out the fucking door just left.
Oh
was dying and the girls from the end were like, bye Jason, it's good to see you. I'm like, bye. Have a nice trip. Have a nice life. Get the fuck outta here. You guys are insane.
my God.
was just like, I, tell me about it, dude. It was so freaky. But I literally, I didn't know what I was getting into, just telling us like not to ask their names.
He,
It was so fucking weird.
I was ask if, maybe they [00:21:00] didn't know that he was, hang, they were, uh, daughters of his, you know, it's like. Maybe they didn't know, uh, but they knew
They knew.
have, they're just wrapped up in this whole bullshit
Yes, and I bet.
scam
What it was is he didn't want them people asking names 'cause maybe they were on the internet, who knows. You know what I mean? It's like, you know, now he can do like facial recognition shit with Google, I mean.
there's legal issues, what they're doing.
Yeah, exactly.
that's, what it is.
Yeah. You never know if someone has a cousin in the FBI or something like that and you can actually say something.
So
Call ice on them is what you should have done.
yeah, it was fucking weird. I.
Yeah, and we're back and imagine that. Anyhow, so you guys have been doing a fucking amazing job at going through and following us on social media, all your comments and [00:22:00] everything on there. So if you guys don't mind, go through and tell 10 people that you like about the podcast and 20 that you fucking hate.
All right? And then follow us on all the socials, YouTube, TikTok, Instagram, guys. Thank you. It's been awesome. And you guys have been responding back on a lot of stuff on there as well. The two. And one of the things that happened this past week, uh, we had an episode talking about, uh, corporate hair salons where they're going through and not giving you a lunch break or making you work through your lunch break.
And that got a huge response on our social media posts. And I had someone reach out and tell me because of. Listening to us that it kind of opened their eyes and she quit her job at her corporate salon. I guys, I'm gonna let you know right now, Jack and I do not give the best advice. All right? This is more for enter team and purposes only.
Please do not [00:23:00] take advice from us, you know, especially me, that's for sure. I'm not, I'm, look, what did I know? Someone quit their job.
Ruined you, ruined someone's life now. Exactly. Know how you,
I ruined her life for the better, but she posted, she told me that she quit her job, uh, because she, she have a new job.
She does. She had a new job. A lot of other hair salons are hiring out there, so that's good news. See? Yeah. So no longer working at one of those corporate hair salons, you know, where they're clocking you out. And that's one of the things I've been hearing a ton of is, although too, is people going through and like being clocked out for their lunch and not being able to take their lunch, just working right on through it.
You know,
so
their people are getting tired of shit. They don't even know about it. I bet you. I'm sure they don't.
Yeah.
Yeah. I'm sure they don't even know. So people are, they're done being lied to, that's for sure. Slave labor. So that's what's happening. You guys. Maybe if we did open your eyes to some certain things or see some of our experiences, that's great.
[00:24:00] Please don't quit your job without me getting another one. Please don't follow our lead or our advice. You know, what do you care? We've made a shit ton of mistakes. Well, because I'm a hairdresser too. Hairdressers are my people like, they're like,
all right. Okay.
You know, so I'm just saying that I'm not, we're not spewing.
I mean, if it listen to our shit, ology, we're not spewing the best advice. That's for sure.
Jason wants you to quit your job right now. Quit your job and get on, put in your no notice, no notice. Just
walk out. That's what everyone does now anyhow. No one, no one gives you a notice anymore. They just leave.
They don't even show back up. Yeah.
It's just not the type of business that would honor a two week notice. You know, it's no, they don't, not an office. It's not an office. It's, it's not, these are not normal businesses. These are not normal people.
Correct. I mean,
they act like it is
so you won't tell anybody else that you're leaving or take clients with them or something like that.
I'm like, dude, come [00:25:00] with social media now. You can't stop that.
No, but how many times have you heard, you know, it's like, someone's like, oh, I, I'm gonna leave in two weeks. And they just tell 'em, leave now.
Yeah.
Every single time. That happens. Every single time. So why even bother? Maybe it actually is better.
You offer the notice with no intention of doing it, maybe. Yeah. Uh. Because if you leave without notice, then the owner's like, well, they left without notice. You know, like, make you look bad or something, you know? But they would've, it never worked. They wanted to be gone anyway. Yeah. You know? Yeah.
It never works, you know what I mean?
But people are getting tired of the lies, and that is one thing that a lot of salon owners do is they lie to you. You know, especially when things are not going well. Wow. They hate to tell you they're not. Well, no one's gonna tell you they're not doing well, that's for sure. But you know, the tells when someone in a salon's not doing great.[00:26:00]
People are quitting. There's not so many people working there. I think my favorite though is when the salon owner's like, oh, I got a couple of people I'm gonna hire and things are gonna turn around as soon as they come on board. 'cause they have a huge clientele and they're gonna bring people with them and um,
oh, I've
heard that
before.
As soon as I hear that, I'm like,
bing. Things are not going well. Hey, how's it going at the salon? Oh, it's great. Yeah. Then you ought to wonder. Anyway. No, salon is doing great. You know, it's like you have a little more to say about it, and if you just act like it's the most perfect thing that's ever happened in this world, you're lying
absolutely
into it.
When things are going well, when I'm talking to a salon owner, normally what they're saying is like, yeah, things are great, man. Everything's going good.
Yeah. Yeah. And then
that's it. That's all they have to say. You know? It's like, oh yeah, these sounds real. You know? It's like,
yeah, yeah. They're going good.
You know? Yeah. Just trucking along, man. It was just, you know, being busy and you know, [00:27:00] it's when you go on and on about, oh, things are wonderful, or They will be wonderful. Oh, and that's the, maybe it's about
to, or look at the future close or something. You know, the future's looking so great, you know what I mean?
It's just kinda like, uh, were you drunk when you thought that? You know what I mean? It was like, that's just something that you kind of came up with you having a daydream. Well, you've been day drinking or what the fuck's going on here. But usually that's what it is when they're telling you, they go through and they have to search on other people and tell 'em how wonderful things are going, you know?
And it's like, oh my god, things are great. I got like. Four employees now, you know, it's like, uh, you have a 16 chair salon and now you got four. Huh. Cool. Because they don't want you to know that though. You know what I mean? They don't want you to know. Actually I'm lying about the four. I actually have half.
I have like two, and that's really it. And they're really not all that busy, by the way. But I'm not gonna per, you know, project that onto you. I'm prote, I'm gonna project how well I'm doing and how I'm so busy all the time and I'm working like six days a week [00:28:00] all the time. And you're like. Uh, no, you're not.
You're only working like. Four maybe, but, and then they start telling you how well things are going in their life and how they're gonna go through. I'm building this big old house and you know, things are amazing. Oh yeah. And it's like, it, it never, no. When people start bragging about the shit and how well
things are going, when you know what it looks like, you know, they're salon's, emp empty.
No one's talking about 'em.
Yeah.
Except for you, you're wondering if it's open or not. You know, it's like, is that still open? But we work. Yeah, I know, right? That we, we
used to work for a guy who was like that, uh, the guy that owned the Newport Beach lawn that we used to work at that. Here's the thing though.
Yeah. That salon was rocking until it wasn't.
Yeah. Yeah.
You know, so it was busy. But what he would do is I never
knew it not rocking.
Right. Well, you, you were gone though at that point when things started going south because it no longer exists.
Maybe it went south 'cause I was gone. Did you ever No. Heard about that?[00:29:00]
Look what happened. Uh, salon. Salon you and I worked at On Melrose. Yeah. I left and then it just went downhill. Right? The, the signs are up. I already, it was already up. Everyone knew, 'cause I knew it was closing. I was like, I, I'm outta here. But that enough I knew,
said
the same
thing.
Yeah.
This guy though, was going through and giving all these courses and classes and he would tell s salon owners to project a very positive outlook on things.
So it's like, even if the things aren't going so well, you know, you just tell people things are going fantastic. It's either going fantastically well or fantastically terrible, you know? And I'm like, and I would look at him going like, you're telling people to lie. This is the advice you're giving instead of No, no, no.
And showing them what you're doing to make it better. You're telling them to project a positive outlook. Either ter like project, everything's fantastically well or fantastically terrible and that's what he listen people say,
I just happen to know that Paul Mitchell [00:30:00] salons have a saying and it's fake it till you make it.
Oh, I fucking hate that.
Me too. I hate that story. Whenever I hear somebody say that. Yeah, I want to punch him in the face. I, and it's like Exactly. So that's what he's doing. Exactly. Yeah. You wanna
what though? He was pretty good friends with those guys over there at Paul Mitchell, so they probably fit off each other that shit.
Yeah, I'm sure. But as soon as I hear someone fake it till you make it, I'm like,
Ugh.
No, no. It's either you don't do it if you don't know how to fucking do it. Quit telling people you're gonna go through and do their hair and just fake that you know how to do hair. That's basically what you're saying.
Yeah. You know, you don't dunno how to run a business. You dunno how to do hair. So just fake it till you make it. So just go fuck things up. Go ahead, go fuck. When will that ever happen? And then when these days, you'll be amazing. You made it. You know what I mean? It's like, no,
gee, I wonder if he ever made it.
I know he's been faking it his whole [00:31:00] life. Um, he never
made it. That drives me Absolutely. Up the wall. But that's the thing. That's what hairdressers know how to do well. You know what I mean? It's just lie, oh, we can get you smoke mirrors one day. One day, I'll, you're brunette, I'll make you blonde in one day.
That did happen one time to the salon. I remember it was Reese Witherspoon. She came into the salon one day. I got a phone call asking if I'd come at eight o'clock in the morning before the salon opened and talked to a client and it was her. She just finished that movie that your client produced, walked the Line, and where she played Junior Carter.
Oh yeah. Mm-hmm. And a color. She had to be blonde again for her next role. And he told her that he could go through and get her blonde in one sitting. Well, she was blonde. All right. On the pieces that survived. 'cause let me tell you, when I walked in, I mean, she had extensions all the way to the top of her head, and they were asking me what I could do, and I was like, [00:32:00] uh.
There's, I can't make that blend. I mean, it was just like I had to go through and like, we can get a wig.
Let me ask you this. Why would she go into a random colorist for something like that?
It wasn't a random colorist, it was her agent's colorist and he said that he could do it. So they believed him and the agent going there for years.
And then the next thing you know, they're in the shop that I'm at. Yeah, the one in Brentwood. So I'm there eight o'clock, and here's the thing, I always wanted to meet her just not under that circumstance, you know what I mean? I was like, this is the worst circumstance can meet somebody. I'm like, fuck. So it was like lovely.
She was really, really sweet. Holy shit.
Well, no, she is. She used to come in the, like another salon I worked at. One who worked when you moved and she used to come in and have her hair done all the time. CDO worked there and he's her [00:33:00] hairdresser. I don't think he does color. He might now. I don't know. Um, he might have been out of town, that's why.
I don't
know what happened. But let tell you, it wasn't great, you know? But that's the thing is that hairdressers do not fake it.
No, but he just happens
when you fake it.
This colorist who was like, I can do it in one day, you know? Um, he just wanted to meet her.
Yeah. To
do her hair. He would say anything.
A lot of these hairdressers think all, whoever was one, that one celebrity is gonna like throw me up, you know?
And I mean, it'd be the celebrity hairdresser and it's like not like that. You're not, not by faking it, not telling people that don't know what the fuck not after that. Yeah. You knows. You're tell, oh, I know what I'm doing. No, you don't. So yeah, that phrase drives me fucking up the wall. But that's the thing about hair salons though.
I mean, a lot of salon owners, that's what they're doing, it seems like. And even big ones. I mean, shit, we worked at one that was one in New York and one in LA and that place shut down. And that's exactly what he was doing. He was [00:34:00] faking it. Talking about, yeah. Yeah. You know, he was telling everyone like, oh, I'll hire this one other person.
It'll be amazing. And it's like. Look around this place. It's turning into a fucking ghost town. If you're working inside a salon, what are the tells? The owner's lying to you about things like that. What happened
eventually after I left? Had stylists just slowly leave or, yes. Were the clients not coming in?
It was both, man, lemme tell you, clients will go to stylists who they know, you know? So it's not like no pe it was, it was walk-ins or anything. It wasn't that.
That salon was not a walk-in salon. It definitely wasn't. It was almost like you had to know that salon was there kind of a thing. There was no walk by traffic, you know?
Yeah.
And that's how they wanted it as well though too, because there was a lot of celebrities who used to come inside there as well.
I've only really worked in those, you know, it's like Exactly. We
don't get like walk-in. I don't even like taking walk-ins. Oh no, I don't either. But no, it was like, it slowly started to die.
You could see people every week. It was like someone was, [00:35:00] one or two people were leaving. Um, there was no, the other one is no products on the shelf. Nothing. Huh? Nothing.
Which means no money. Exactly. They don't have money. There's no, there's no, no product on the, what do they do? So. What do they normally say?
Like, whose fault is it that there's no, oh, it's always that. Oh, the
distributor late on the dis distributor or, yeah. Yep. You know, something like that. And, and it's like,
I, I love it. I love hearing you haven't paid your bills. A runaround.
Yeah. You haven't paid your bills. There's a whole
runaround about Yeah, well we have to sell this amount and, and, and they send us things and all that.
And so,
yeah. Or when the owners ask you to answer the phones, 'cause there's no one to work the front desk. I don't answer the phones, so, um, oh my God. Do you mind answering the phones or you wanna Oh, we're using AI now to go through and answer the phones for us. You know what I mean? It's like you can't afford someone to work the front.
Well, who the, who's taking the money? By the way, you're so [00:36:00] fucking busy. You're gonna need someone to take the money's
charged online, so it's automatically discharged the card,
I guess. Yeah, I guess. I dunno
if no one's answering phones. It's actually in the salon and the salon has no soul. Yeah, that's my right.
Yeah.
Thoughts on that? So if you're not gonna get to a real person, but not only that though, it's just like, oh, we have AI doing all that, and they can't, AI can't do everything. They might be able to take appointments for you. You know, no one wants
dealing with that. And if it has like a question that's random, you know, you want someone who's actually in there, it's like, oh, let me go ask 'em.
Exactly. Want that option? You know? Or
if someone's gonna be late, or if someone they need to call ahead of time or something like that to cancel or something might happen. You need to talk to a physical person or at the end if the bill's different. I mean, the thing about it though is that the bill's gonna be different if you're doing color and then a haircut or what, whatever it is, there's add-on stuff that happens.
You know what I mean? The bill's not [00:37:00] always exactly the same, so you need a live person there to handle that. And if you can't afford someone to work your front desk, guess what? That's a tell. You're not doing so well, you know? Yeah. Unless you're the one charging everyone on, like, like, I, like me, I charge everyone on my phone, but we have someone, we have a staff, we have a manager, we have, you know, multiple people working our front desk all the time.
So if you're the one man show, who's going through and answering the phones, charging the clients, washing the towels, and sweeping the floors. Cool. Great. Yeah. Then just have a place by yourself. But I'll tell you one thing though, it just kind of tells you you can't manage people and you can't manage a salon if that's the way things are going.
You know? And if you are a hairdresser, look at what's happening around you because sometimes you have blinders on and you're just kind of working, and you're just listening with the owner's telling you, and you kind of believe it because you might not know better. Look around, open your eyes, and maybe it's time for you to [00:38:00] move on as well though, too.
Find out your options. You have 'em.
And now we got some more shit. Wish ology Jack.
Just because two smoking hot girls call you. Daddy doesn't make 'em. Your daughters. They aren't your real family. Charles Manson had a family. Look how well that turned out. By the way, Charles Manson smoked real cigarettes. He would've never vaped. So shove that vape cartridge up your ass.
Jason will be happy to help with that.
Alright, and here are some signs that your salon might be closing down. The salon owner promises a big turnaround. After these next hires, you just wait. You'll be the first in line to be made partner in the new salon that he's opening up. And you're welcome. Claims that the AI program does the job of three receptionists [00:39:00] without the backtalk.
When he says ai, he really means a voicemail with language options. Here's the thing, guys. Salon owners really want you to think that you're nothing without them. The reality is, is that they're nothing without you and they're just really scared. You smell that, that's fear. No matter where you go, I guarantee you'll, you'll be just fine.
In fact, you'll do a lot better. I guarantee it. And with that, stay shitty. See you next time.
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