The Cornell 7, Bikini Salons & Why certain Men Shouldn't Be In Our Chairs

[00:00:00] [SPEAKER_02] Hey Jason, why don't you come on over? I've got a bunch of the girls here and we're having a party. We'll have a good time.

[00:00:06] [SPEAKER_00] Ah, you know what Paula, I've had a little too much to drink. I don't think I can make it.

[00:00:10] [SPEAKER_02] Oh, even better.

[00:00:22] [SPEAKER_00] Real hairdressers telling real stories about their experiences from behind the salon chair. And we are now saying the quiet parts out loud. This is Sh!t I told my Hairdresser. Hi Paula, how are you?

[00:00:45] [SPEAKER_01] Hello, doing well. A little angry right now. Oh good. More than angry.

[00:00:51] [SPEAKER_00] Good, good. Well guys, welcome back to another episode of Shit I Told My Hairdresser. Remember there's shit in the title, just like last week. Still cursing, still going at it. So if you're skipping church, listen to this. You might want to go back to church. But anyhow, Paula, good to have, good to be out here with you. It's me and you again. I'm really enjoying that. Um, guys go through and hit the subscribe button.

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[00:02:06] [SPEAKER_02] Oh, I am so pissed off. Yeah. Okay. So clients are coming in and the topic is the Cornell issue.

[00:02:13] [SPEAKER_00] Fuck. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:02:14] [SPEAKER_02] The seven Cornell and then the 50 plus that knew about it and did nothing. And the thing is the harassment going on and on and on. And the harassment that I've experienced in salons is crazy. And the way that men look at women and I'm sure it happens to men too, but I mean, yeah, did you know, did you know, we used to have a place here, a salon chain, franchise chain, whatever it was called bikini cuts. What?

[00:02:43] [SPEAKER_02] Bikini cuts where professionals, women that would dress that would, they were professionals. They had the cosmetology license. They would give their haircuts. I think we're only $35. This was in the mid two thousands. They would dress in bikinis and men could come in and get their haircut by women and bikinis. Yes. In Utah. Yeah. Isn't that fun? In the winter? Oh yeah. All the time.

[00:03:07] [SPEAKER_03] God.

[00:03:08] [SPEAKER_02] They were in business for about, Oh, I don't know. I bet five to seven years. I don't remember. Wow. Really? They ended up having to get security staff. They had, they had hoodies and on the back it said bikini cuts, um, security. So the men wouldn't follow the women out of the salon. Oh. Do they think that that shit is okay? And I had a cousin that would, he stopped getting his haircut by me and I would give him discounts.

[00:03:37] [SPEAKER_02] I wouldn't wear a bikini of course, but he decided to start going to bikini cuts. He's all, Oh yeah. They sit there and they give you hand massages. They give you scalp massages and they do, they do charge extra for it, but they're in bikinis. So what do I care about? So then why don't you just call it a strip club?

[00:03:53] [SPEAKER_00] Yeah. Just go to a club. Yeah.

[00:03:56] [SPEAKER_02] Are we talking about demeaning for women? But you want to know what though?

[00:03:59] [SPEAKER_00] Here's here's, here's the thing. Here's the thing. I mean, women should be able to wear whatever they fuck they want. They should. I totally agree with that. You know what I mean? We just don't live in that society. Unfortunately, we live with a bunch of shit heads around. We're surrounded by a bunch of guys with pack mentalities. That's exactly what happened. Very pack mentality. It's pack mentality. And they have to hire security to watch out for them to walk them to their car so people don't follow them home. Yep.

[00:04:29] [SPEAKER_00] Unfortunately, I wish I wish we lived in a world where you could wear whatever the fuck you want and we didn't sexualize your, your body. You know what I mean? And people could do whatever, but we don't live in that world. Unfortunately, we still have a lot of fucking sick people out there. Don't we? This is the proof. It's the proof. This is the proof right here is this whole Cornell shit.

[00:04:50] [SPEAKER_02] Yeah. And now we've got a Jane Doe movement going on in this week alone. I've had at least 25 clients tell me that they have, they are Jane Doe's.

[00:04:59] [SPEAKER_00] Wow. Fuck dude.

[00:05:01] [SPEAKER_02] So as much you want to avoid this topic, it's there.

[00:05:05] [SPEAKER_00] Yes, it is there.

[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_02] But who wants to avoid the topic?

[00:05:08] [SPEAKER_00] The predators.

[00:05:09] [SPEAKER_02] There you go.

[00:05:10] [SPEAKER_00] They want you to fucking shut up about it. Oh, they don't want to write an essay. You know what I mean? Just say what they fucking did an essay. What the fuck is that? I mean, the punishment, the punishment is. It's like, it's nothing. It doesn't fit the crime. Right. You just ruin this poor woman's life. The rest of her life. You ruined her life. And their punishment was to write an essay on how they shouldn't have done it. Yes. That's fucked up.

[00:05:40] [SPEAKER_02] Yeah. But we go through it in the salons all the time.

[00:05:42] [SPEAKER_00] All the time.

[00:05:43] [SPEAKER_02] Another cousin that refused to get his hair cut by women or by men. And he would say, and I'm, I'm a, why do you not get? Yeah. Because he found getting his haircut, a very erotic experience. I'm a, Oh, you are not. You're not getting your haircut by any of the women, my salon, or actually I'd rather you not get your haircut at my salon. If that's the way you think, but he's also one of these misogynists that wouldn't, wouldn't date a woman if she made more money than him.

[00:06:12] [SPEAKER_00] Oh God. So yeah, he's an insecure little boys, what it is. And he gets off on people rubbing his head. Oh my God. What a piece of shit. He should not be allowed inside hair salons.

[00:06:24] [SPEAKER_01] No, he needs the kids.

[00:06:26] [SPEAKER_00] Yep. Is Ira. Yep. He needs a fucking kids. Okay. If you guys remember that, go back to listen to Paul's first episode about have a, but a cave, a little kids keep on guys. They can't jerk off underneath the cave. Right.

[00:06:40] [SPEAKER_02] Exactly.

[00:06:41] [SPEAKER_00] Amazing.

[00:06:42] [SPEAKER_02] I'm extremely justified with that kind of opinion about hairdressers.

[00:06:46] Of course.

[00:06:46] [SPEAKER_02] Right. I also worked with a couple of hairdressers, men of course. And it was right when I was getting into the industry and I was telling one of them, I said, God, I feel like I've got some great friends here. This is a great salon. He's all, I'm not your friend. And I said, what? What? And he says, I can't be your friend unless we sleep together first and get it out of my system. And then we can be friends.

[00:07:10] And then we can be friends.

[00:07:11] [SPEAKER_02] Who's that?

[00:07:13] [SPEAKER_00] Does he have those male friends to the like below his male friends? There's not. Doesn't that go back to that song that we played the other day? I, you know, I'm not gay, but I do gay stuff. I'm sucking dudes in the back of my truck. He's sucking dick in the back of my truck.

[00:07:28] [SPEAKER_02] Well, he was extremely. He and his brother were extremely homophobic. And his brother.

[00:07:32] [SPEAKER_00] Oh, they're gay. I'm no. Anybody who's extremely homophobic. I'm telling you right now. Gay. Yeah. It might've been a cultural thing, but you know, you know, he's got like, you know, those, those are the guys that wear no belts, you know what I mean? A little loose in the backside. You know what I mean? So, I mean, what? So I'm sorry, but if you think like that, you've been raised that way. This isn't something that just happens. Right.

[00:08:02] [SPEAKER_00] I mean, it's like, that is something that was passed down from your dad or something. You were raised that way. Or your mom. Or your mom. Exactly. Either way. You know what I mean? It's like, you were definitely raised that way. That just doesn't just, you don't walk around saying like, oh, I got to fuck you first before we become friends. We're not friends. And you're, you should have said, you're definitely right. We are definitely not friends. And I ain't fucking you.

[00:08:24] [SPEAKER_02] Okay. Now here's another thing. My second divorce. I didn't tell anyone in the salon that I was divorcing for at least six to eight months. I had a huge male and female clientele, but I knew that my male clientele, once they found out I was going through a divorce, they would start asking me out. And if I told them, no, I don't date clients, they would find it as a rejection. Stop coming to me. And that happened. I lost probably 85% of my male clientele. They started asking me about, and I said, I don't date clients.

[00:08:51] [SPEAKER_02] Not only that, I'm going through some therapy to figure out and process what happened with my marriage. Let me process that first. And they're all, but no, I can help you out with that. No, you can't. Can I just cut your fucking hair?

[00:09:04] [SPEAKER_00] See, you gave too much information. I think, you know what I mean? I wouldn't even have said any of that. I didn't even say that.

[00:09:10] [SPEAKER_02] I only said that to two clients. Oh, okay. To two. To two. Yes. And they were long-term clients. But the other ones, I said, you know, I'm just, I know I don't date clients. And they found it as a rejection. They stopped coming to me. I lost a huge amount of income because they felt rejected. And I even asked coworkers once they found out I was getting divorced. I don't tell any of your clients.

[00:09:32] [SPEAKER_00] Yeah.

[00:09:32] [SPEAKER_02] And once they started telling their male clients, they started asking me.

[00:09:35] [SPEAKER_00] I barely tell people part of my personal stuff. You know what I mean? I, I like some of my clients that know me really well. I know them a long time. Sometimes I will. Or people that know my wife, you know what I mean? Then, you know, we can talk a little bit about, you know, what, how things are going. You know what I mean? But that's it. I don't get too personal.

[00:09:52] [SPEAKER_02] My female clients, because women love to support women and we process our things together. That's fine.

[00:09:58] [SPEAKER_03] Yeah.

[00:09:59] [SPEAKER_02] Another thing is that another one of those clients that I told him, no, he stopped coming to me. Years later, I ran into him at a restaurant and we started chit-chatting and kind of dating ish. And he asked me, he says, so all of those times that you rubbed up against me while you were cutting my hair, you were doing that on purpose, right? And I'm all, no. What? I was cutting your hair. I ran into your shoulder because I had to reach over. And I, yeah, yeah.

[00:10:27] [SPEAKER_02] Just like my posts the other day, I had to put on a smock. I wasn't even showing cleavage, cleavage. Yeah. And the guy was talking to my cleavage. Oh my God. Made me so uncomfortable. I put on a smock. So he would stop looking at my boobs the whole time.

[00:10:43] [SPEAKER_00] Oh God. Guys are just so, I'm sorry. You guys are, you guys were fucking stupid. You know what I mean? Yeah. This is, this is idiotic. This is some of the shit, but I've worked with these guys as well though, too. You know what I mean? I've had clients come in and I've had guys come in because a lot of salons that I've worked in, every salon, they always have like really pretty girls working inside them, you know? And I've had guys walk in and go like, well, have you fucked her?

[00:11:11] [SPEAKER_00] Like, no, no, because I'm married. And number one, I love my wife. And number two, she's my friend. It's not a brothel. It's not, it's not, it's a hair salon.

[00:11:21] No.

[00:11:22] [SPEAKER_00] I've had to be. What?

[00:11:23] [SPEAKER_02] Men come into the salon and look around and say, I'll take that one. Oh no. Like they're for sale. Like they're on a shelf.

[00:11:30] [SPEAKER_00] Yeah. No. I'm like, no, we're done. I'm like, we're done. Did I fuck her? What? No, we're done. But you want to want a lot of male hair stylist saying thing as well though, too, you know, because we, I worked at a salon where the owner of the shop, you know, got in trouble for fucking the front desk, got in trouble for, you know, banging some of the staff that works there and things like that.

[00:11:57] [SPEAKER_00] In fact, his wife from net cause she worked there as well. And she started finding out didn't divorce him. I don't know why. I don't know. Cause it was the money or who knows the money.

[00:12:07] [SPEAKER_02] Yeah.

[00:12:08] [SPEAKER_00] She would only hire ugly girls after that. She says, I'm going to only hire her. And I'm like, how about just qualified and then put a, some, you know, like a muzzle on your fucking husband or something. Like what's going on here? You know what I mean? You're just going to hire ugly girls. And I, that who the fuck says that? Yeah. We're only going to, we're only going to high. If you're ugly or you're, you know, unattractive. If you're, yeah. If you're yeah. How, how about going through and doing something to him? That's definitely protection. You know what I mean?

[00:12:37] [SPEAKER_00] I, this you're enabling this motherfucker to keep doing what he's doing is what you're doing. And then he's going to hire, he's going to hire someone behind your back. Yeah. That he wants to be.

[00:12:48] [SPEAKER_02] But the enablers are just as bad as the predators.

[00:12:50] [SPEAKER_00] Absolutely.

[00:12:52] [SPEAKER_02] Yeah.

[00:12:52] [SPEAKER_00] Because they're, I think they're worse. Yeah. I think they're worse. Do you know what I mean? Cause we've seen this shit around groomers. Yeah. You know? So yeah, I agree. I think the enablers are, I would almost say they're worse. Oh yeah.

[00:13:06] [SPEAKER_02] They're worse.

[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_00] Yeah. Keep on going.

[00:13:10] [SPEAKER_02] Yeah.

[00:13:10] [SPEAKER_00] You know? And then if you let them get away with it, that keep fucking doing it. They're going to hire another receptionist. They're going to hire another person right behind your back. Mm-hmm. Wow. Let's, let's get them. Let's hire them where they're too ugly to fuck. I'm like, that's what you're saying. You're not helping the problem. You're making shit worse. And then you're going to go through and make someone feel self-conscious because you think that they're not good enough or good looking. Who the fuck are you to judge someone by the way they look? That's some bullshit. Yeah. You can't do that.

[00:13:37] [SPEAKER_02] I did have one male coworker. He would hit on my clients and he hit on the young ones. And one young one, she was beautiful. She was 15 and I was using her as a model, hair model for a photo shoot. He came over and he just laid it on her. And you know how 15 year old models are? They don't look 15. And so he was laying it on her and laying it on her. And I finally looked at him and I said, she's 15. He goes for now.

[00:14:05] [SPEAKER_02] Oh, I'm all perv. He got a nickname in our salon. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:14:12] [SPEAKER_00] So no. Yeah. What the fuck, dude?

[00:14:16] [SPEAKER_02] For now. Are you kidding? God, she's young enough. She was the same age as his daughters.

[00:14:22] [SPEAKER_00] Yeah. Yep. And I told him that he's all.

[00:14:25] [SPEAKER_02] You don't have to tell people that I have daughters that age.

[00:14:28] [SPEAKER_00] Dude. Yes, we do. That's the thing, guys. We need to say something. It doesn't matter if you're male or female like these fuckers. No one called the police and it was snap chatted around and people knew what was happening at Cornell. No one called the fucking police. Now, I mean, okay. Even in my family, I got a phone call from a detective person. The family had been is the second time being investigated in my family for child molestation.

[00:14:58] Okay.

[00:14:58] [SPEAKER_00] Okay. And when I mentioned it to my mom, I'm just going to say this mom. I'm really sorry. I mentioned to her. She said, please don't say anything. Please don't say anything because then it's going to look bad on the family. And I'm like, mom, you have to say something. Let everyone fucking know because you need to protect the other people. Predators live in the silence. If you were quiet, people won't know and it's going to happen again. And that's what they don't want. That's why this investigator is calling me.

[00:15:28] [SPEAKER_00] And this is what they need to know. They need to know all this information. You know who to talk to so they can prosecute this motherfucker.

[00:15:35] [SPEAKER_02] Yep. I had a brother that ended up in prison the second time for raping and molesting. And so when the family brings, brings them up, they're all, oh, how's your brother? I'm all, oh, the rapist. He's doing good. I guess I haven't talked to him in over 20 years. The rapist. You're talking about that out loud. Yes.

[00:15:54] [SPEAKER_00] Yeah. Yes.

[00:15:56] [SPEAKER_02] Yes.

[00:15:56] [SPEAKER_00] You have to say something no matter what. You know what I mean? Predators, like we're saying again, like predators live in the fucking silence. You know what I mean? Or it's just that you want to what the one of the other things will the two is that people, they don't know when to say when to win is their boss or people freeze up. You know me, cause this fucking happened to me and my girlfriend. This was happened to my girlfriend. I should say at the time we had this huge show that we just finished up in Dallas and we're all at a club.

[00:16:25] [SPEAKER_00] We're all blowing off some steam, right? I'm having a good time. And my boss fucking walks in. I'm talking yacked up. You know, I mean, he was to a point where he, I don't think you recognize anybody. You ever seen people that are that coked up that you look at him straight in the face and they have no idea who you are. Yeah. He was fucking railed up and he washed her to my girlfriend, put his hand on her ass, was arse massager. But I walked over and I go, what the fuck are you doing, man? It's my girlfriend.

[00:16:55] [SPEAKER_00] He listened to me and goes, fuck you. And I looked at him and I was like, he has no idea who I am. And I was like his right hand guy. You know what I mean? I was with them at all the fucking shows.

[00:17:05] [SPEAKER_02] Was it the crazy ice thing?

[00:17:08] [SPEAKER_00] No, it was like, they look at you and they have like zero. Like there was nothing there, like dead eyes. And I'm like, dude. And he's like, he's like, fuck off. He keeps doing it. I grabbed his arm. I'm like, dude, knock it the fuck off. What are you doing? They looked at me. I think he recognized me and just took off. He's like ran away. My girlfriend was his executive assistant, right? So he knew the fuck we knew who it was, but he was just going for it. I was like, what the fuck? And I'm like, are you okay? Like, why don't you tell him to stop? And she goes, Jason, I froze.

[00:17:38] [SPEAKER_02] Yeah. And that's what women do. Now imagine being.

[00:17:41] [SPEAKER_00] Oh, you can't say.

[00:17:44] [SPEAKER_02] And that still doesn't give them a right to do whatever they want.

[00:17:48] [SPEAKER_00] If you can't respond, the answer is no, no, that's rape. It's the answer is no. It doesn't matter if you show up drunk. If someone shows up too wasted at a party, doesn't matter how they got there, how much they had to drink. You don't sleep with them. You don't try to have sex with them because they're incoherent. They can't go through and tell you yes or no. They're in a different planet. We've all had friends who are too fucked up, right? What do we do?

[00:18:17] [SPEAKER_00] We find them. Yeah. Find them a comfy place to fucking sit down.

[00:18:22] [SPEAKER_02] Just go to sleep out day there.

[00:18:25] [SPEAKER_00] Exactly. As a we've all done it to our friends. We've all had friends. You're like, Oh, whoa, you can't walk anymore. Okay. Let's sit you down. Let's make sure you're okay. Let's get you home safe. And then you kind of like, you know, put them in their room and pump. We can go, go, you know, here's some Advil for the morning. See ya. Yeah.

[00:18:43] [SPEAKER_02] I mean, make sure you're saying giving you some emergency in the morning, but if you can't, you can't have sex with them. No. And my dad raised a feminist. He definitely raised a feminist. He said, sweetheart, I really wish we lived in a world where a woman could walk down the street naked and people are men. I mean, don't see her as an opportunity. I wish we lived in that kind of a world, but we don't. And that is really sad. But this is what I want to know. The next week when you guys got back to this lawn.

[00:19:13] [SPEAKER_02] Oh, what happened?

[00:19:15] [SPEAKER_00] Oh, he offered her a brand new car. Yeah. I reported this motherfucker. I remember. Was it worth it? I, she did get the car. I got a car out of it too. But I still reported his ass. And the next thing you know, we know we had to have a meeting with HR. They flew out to California where we were at. And he's up there with the HR person. Right. Saying like, okay, guys, we had a whole sexual harassment talk. And it's like, bitch, you're the one.

[00:19:45] [SPEAKER_00] The reason we're here is because of you. And he's pointing the finger at us saying you guys don't do this shit. Bitch, you're the reason we're here. Sit the fuck down and sit in the front seat and listen to what she's got to say. You know what I mean?

[00:19:59] [SPEAKER_02] Did anyone apply for jobs after that if they knew about it or?

[00:20:02] [SPEAKER_00] God. Yeah, they still did because it was a big company guys. You know what I mean? You were still, you worked there. You worked there when this happened. You just have no idea. I was working with the company. Right. Because there was a separation between that side, the ambassadors and the art directors. And we were considered the art directors considered like the top of the company. Right. And so what they had to do is they had to bring in all the art directors and executive assistants and be like, okay, guys, guess what? You can't do this shit. You mean the shit that you just did last week?

[00:20:32] [SPEAKER_00] We're not supposed to do. Oh, thanks for telling us. Imagine that. Cause we're got around pretty fucking fast. Cause why is, why is Jason driving a fucking Porsche now? You know what I mean? They were afraid I was going to lawyer up and she was going to lawyer up. But it was just one of those things where it was like, we thought when we got back, we wouldn't have jobs. We really did think that. Cause we were young. We're like 26 years old, 25, 26. Was he married at the time? Oh yeah, he was. Oh yeah.

[00:21:02] [SPEAKER_02] So how does she handle it?

[00:21:03] [SPEAKER_00] You want to know what? Oddly enough, you know his wife asked me, before this happened, before this happened, I was at dinner at their house and his wife pulls me into the kitchen and she goes, cause she knew I was traveling a lot with him. She goes, if you ever see him cheating on me, I want you to let me know. I was like, Oh, absolutely. Bitch. You know, already, you know, already.

[00:21:29] [SPEAKER_02] Cause I traveled around that guy and I saw what he did.

[00:21:33] [SPEAKER_00] And if you have to ask, you, you know, you know, not only that when they met, when they met and they started dating and got into this big heated relationship, he was engaged to someone else. And she knew it. She knew it. So I was like, Oh, bitch. Uh, uh, don't even go there. You wrecked the first almost marriage. You wrecked an engagement. Now you're married to him.

[00:22:02] [SPEAKER_00] And now you're asking me if he's cheating on you. You already know the answer. You married someone who does, who already cheats. You know that serial cheater. You know? Yeah. You know that, but that's the thing with the, it's not this industry guys, but we're calling it out because if there's, Hey, we know there's a lot. Ninety six percent of you guys are women that listen to us and listen to the show. And we definitely want to hear from you guys. Let us know. But we've been around.

[00:22:32] [SPEAKER_00] We, I even had my friend, John on the show who used to work for Tony and guy. He went to go work for. I shouldn't probably say the name. Okay. But one of their head guys after one of their shows, again, at another after party at the hair show, he was chasing this little girl around. And then she went and tried to hide behind my friend, John. And he was like, Oh, I'm with him. I'm with him. And so this guy was just kind of like, Oh, well, that's okay.

[00:23:01] [SPEAKER_00] He's like, you know, I'm, I'm leaving tomorrow. Then John's leaving in a couple of weeks. He saw a phone job, but tonight he goes, why don't you let me fuck her tonight? You can fuck her tomorrow. Set it right in front of the girl. Yes. Like it was like a negotiation. Like she was property. That's guys. And we need to fucking say something and call these guys out because these companies, they, I got another, after we had another girl named Jotty on who was sexually harassed by clients.

[00:23:30] [SPEAKER_00] Cause it clients do this. Hairstylists do this other hairstylist got guys were fuck the, uh, were pieces of shit. And, um, she got on there. I had a girl listen to her episode. She called me up and she got, she was too afraid. She told me, and she's with a therapist now. Um, she has a new boyfriend, but she was like Jason. And this is, we're talking about a guy that I know. And I worked with in LA for years.

[00:23:59] [SPEAKER_00] He's a brand ambassador for a big company now. And she told me that he flew her out to LA under the disguise of giving her a job. Right. And then we're supposed to get her a hotel and all the hotel fell through. So now she has, you know, sleep at his place or whatnot, you know? Well, guess what happened? She confided in me and told me the whole story. And we were going to go through and have an episode about this. And she called me back. I didn't hear back from her for a while.

[00:24:29] [SPEAKER_00] She called me back. She's like, you want to what? I'm in therapy. I'm in a much better place. I am just not ready. And I don't, don't don't work with your therapist. We're not going to out anybody. I, you know what I mean? I wasn't that was, that wasn't the plan was to out anybody. The plan was more of like, to let people know this is what's out there. This is what happens. Please be careful because these guys will go through and use their power and their influence

[00:24:57] [SPEAKER_00] to try to go through and get up your skirt.

[00:25:00] [SPEAKER_02] Well, it's like the time that I was sent to Alaska and the guy that owned the beauty supply house wanted me, wanted to take me to dinner. And I ended up getting the flu, the stomach flu. Yeah. This, and I was kind of a little bit warned about him. Oh, he wanted to come pick me up, take me to his cabin, give me dinner. I'm all, oh shit. At his cabin? Yeah.

[00:25:23] [SPEAKER_00] Dinner.

[00:25:24] [SPEAKER_02] Which was an hour away from Anchorage, which is where I was staying an hour away from civilization. And I just, I called him. I said, I can't, I've got the stomach flu. Yeah. The guy, just one of those guys, you get the tinglys around him. Like, oh gross. Yeah. So anyways, so I left early the next morning on a flight and just got back home and I was sick as, as a dog. The director of cells, the Tonian guy, TG bedhead.

[00:25:54] [SPEAKER_03] Yeah.

[00:25:55] [SPEAKER_02] Was pissed off at me for not going to dinner with him because the owner of the beauty supply house thought that I was sent there to be with him when I was actually teaching boxes. Yes. Yeah. You were hired to do a job, right? Right. And it was apparently so.

[00:26:17] Yeah.

[00:26:17] [SPEAKER_02] Yeah. God, that one. I just barely remembered that one. That was crazy. Yeah. And I told the director of cells, I said, you know, I don't do that. He's like, yeah, he was pretty pissed off that he didn't go to his cabin with him. I'm all, I don't do that.

[00:26:30] [SPEAKER_00] That's not your, but he will. Oh, but like this guy's like, they were holding me out. You should have went to the, yeah, you should have went to the cabin. Bitch, you go to the cabin. Why don't you offer up your pussy? How about that? I'm a little boy pussy motherfucker. Give him a little love, you know, next time. Give him a little bit of a shave down there. Make sure you're nice and smooth for him. What the fuck?

[00:26:49] [SPEAKER_02] God, I can't believe I just remembered that one. Woo. Maybe I want to block it out.

[00:26:54] [SPEAKER_00] Yeah. I want to block that out too. So we all have our stories though. We all have our, the shit that we've gone through and I think we need to go through. I've had it. I remember when I was, when I was 19 starting to do hair and I got my first job and I was cleaning some color off the floor that someone had dropped onto the floor. And one of the stylists walked over and grabbed my face and put it straight into her cross. She goes, while you're down there. And I was like, Whoa. Oh, see, it happens to men too. It does.

[00:27:23] [SPEAKER_00] It's, it's less likely that that happens to guys. It does happen. And I, and I've had, you know, teachers. I've had female teachers. I remember when we moved to Dallas and I was a word for Tony and guy had a female teacher there who was just kind of like, you don't want to pass the class. I'll show you how to pass it. I'm like, Oh, I went straight to my boss. And I told her exactly what happened. I had a new teacher after that. Funny enough, when it's female, you tell another female, they correct the problem really fast.

[00:27:53] [SPEAKER_00] Really fast because the girl that pushed my face into her crotch, my, the owner of the salon was a female. And she corrected that shit real quick. I had the teacher. She was female. I go to her boss who was female. Right. I tell her it got corrected really fucking quick. You go tell a guy, nothing fucking happened. Like Cornell, they make you write a fucking essay. They're going to be like, Oh, so you're the new target. That's what they're going to tell the female. Not, Oh, I'm going to go fix this shit. No, absolutely not.

[00:28:22] [SPEAKER_00] And that's the fucking problem. And they wonder why women don't fucking say anything. Hmm. Because you're made to feel like shit. You know, nothing's going to happen. This is proof. This woman had to hire a fucking lawyer and put her shit out there. You mean for me, anything to fucking happen. They didn't correct shit. And then when you would don't see anything or you freeze, why'd you say something? I was frozen because you don't know what to do. This is your boss. You don't know how many times have you ever been?

[00:28:52] [SPEAKER_00] You're being shocked by something where you're like, God, I wish I would have done something. Everyone has. So fuck you for thinking like that. You've been through it too. We all been through something like that. If we don't fucking talk about this and make this a normal conversation, our kids are going to be doing it too. I have loads of people in my family that are in education. And this, this Cornell thing right now.

[00:29:15] [SPEAKER_00] Let me tell, I can't even tell you how much information my family has been giving to myself, my wife, everything on how to tell our son. No is no. And that's one thing my wife reinforces with my son. She was like, it doesn't matter if it's a friend telling you no, when no means no, a male or female. It doesn't matter who it is. Make sure you're telling your kids. So this shit doesn't repeat because if you don't, and if you're like, I'm going to say, sorry, mom.

[00:29:44] [SPEAKER_00] But if you're kind of like her where you don't want, you know, people to find out about it or how bad am I look on the family? You're part of the problem too. And we can't do that. We can't repeat this shit. I know it's not.

[00:29:57] [SPEAKER_02] And these boys are being outed. It's all over social media. Their names, family names, everything. What do you need to be doxxed? Yeah. One of them fled the country guilty as charged. Yeah. To a country that he can get extradited. Mommy and daddy are protecting him.

[00:30:13] [SPEAKER_00] They'll find a way. Hopefully they find a way to get him back. You know what I mean? But this, this is why, cause it, it, I it's happened to me and not just at the salon. It's happened to me in my personal life as well. The two, when I was young and it was played off as kind of like, Oh, it was kind of funny. The housekeeper fell in love with Jason, but she was all over me and I was like 11. And so it has happened to me. And it's like, it was just, it was blown under.

[00:30:41] [SPEAKER_00] And it was, it was laughed about later on in life. I've had, you know, family members, my brother, everybody who was just kind of like, Oh, remember when the housing were fell in love with Jason housekeepers who were over 18 years old, should fall in love with 11 year old boys and try to get them to go through and like kiss them and touch them in their area that basically touch them, you know, where they want to be touched. That shouldn't happen. Right. You know? And it's not a laughing matter. It's not, no one fell in love with anybody or it shouldn't be like, Oh, just blown under the rug or something like that.

[00:31:09] [SPEAKER_00] No, this needs to, we have to stop this shit.

[00:31:12] [SPEAKER_02] I know. And I had an ex boyfriend that whose uncle really liked him a little too much. And the parents said, Oh, we thought we were so young. You'd forget about it. Oh, Oh, what in the hell?

[00:31:26] [SPEAKER_00] You don't forget.

[00:31:27] [SPEAKER_02] Where is that an answer to your child's issue?

[00:31:31] [SPEAKER_00] You carry it on. It fucked up my female relationships for a long time. That shit stuck with me. But then it was also a reminder from my family. They thought I was funny. So it's guys, it's not funny and you need to say something about it. And we need to put a stop to this shit. Yes. Now. And we are back.

[00:32:00] [SPEAKER_02] Hello.

[00:32:01] [SPEAKER_00] Hello.

[00:32:02] [SPEAKER_02] Jason. I had this experience once and we are definitely going over this topic. So it wasn't my client. It was a coworkers client and I'm working on clients hair. And I hear this guy ask this hairdresser, what do you buy a woman you don't like for Valentine's? And I kind of stood there for a moment. And I looked at the guy and I said, a self-help book.

[00:32:25] [SPEAKER_00] Oh, yeah.

[00:32:29] [SPEAKER_02] And I'm going to my client.

[00:32:30] [SPEAKER_00] That you don't like. I mean, what, why do you.

[00:32:33] [SPEAKER_02] I have no idea.

[00:32:35] [SPEAKER_00] Okay. True. That, that good point. You know what I mean? Yeah.

[00:32:39] [SPEAKER_02] Trying to get out of the relationship.

[00:32:41] [SPEAKER_00] You don't know, but the thing is, what are you trying to tell me? Bitch, you need help.

[00:32:48] [SPEAKER_02] But that's the thing. I've had coworkers that are the constant self-help books. Come on. And I'm all for a self-help book. But if it's constantly part of your, your life, are you really getting the help? And not only that, if you're.

[00:33:01] [SPEAKER_00] Yeah.

[00:33:02] [SPEAKER_02] Yeah. And then you're constantly promoting this stuff to your clients and talking about it all the time. I mean, we had one coworker that brought in the book, The Secret. And this is after I read.

[00:33:14] [SPEAKER_00] Oh, fuck. Yeah.

[00:33:15] [SPEAKER_02] This is after I read Viktor Frank Frankl's man search for meaning. I was reading books by the Dalai Lama. And so she brings in this book and then she was playing the videos on the big huge screen TV for everybody to watch. If you, if you manifest it and think about it and concentrate on it, it'll happen. And then this for six months, this went out on in my salon. Clients were getting sick and tired of hearing about it.

[00:33:38] [SPEAKER_00] Dude. Okay. Okay. So, all right. I have a little story about The Secret. So, so one of my old partners actually did the people who organized the Abraham Hicks, whatever it is, you know, I mean those people, she did their hair. What were they like? Fucking wackadoodles, man. So I remember they actually, they brought in the video. They're having us watch it.

[00:34:04] [SPEAKER_00] And we had some friends, she had some friends over, had a dinner and they watched the video and we're like, what was going on? We're watching a video. I thought we're going to watch a movie. You know what I mean? You're thinking like, Hey, dinner in a movie. Okay. Sounds great. You know, we're going to watch that. And I was like, yeah, who doesn't know this shit? You know what I mean? I mean, affirmations. They're fucking great. A mantra. Amazing. You know what I mean? So why do we need to watch a fucking video about this shit? We learned this back in like the second grade. Yeah. And I was like, and she's like, Oh no, it's amazing. This whole program. And I'm like, Oh no, I'm, I'm good.

[00:34:33] [SPEAKER_02] For the selling program.

[00:34:34] [SPEAKER_00] Yeah.

[00:34:35] [SPEAKER_02] Yeah.

[00:34:35] [SPEAKER_00] And so she was doing that, but then they also, also had a whole like seminar that you went to.

[00:34:43] [SPEAKER_03] Mm-hmm.

[00:34:43] [SPEAKER_00] Right. And she invited us and gave us tickets. I'm like, my friends and I'm like, you know what? Let's just fucking go see how crazy this shit is. We went. And what you think of right now, 10 times fucking worse. Okay. These people were fucking insane. I mean, not only were they just like drinking the Kool-Aid, like what, if you took Scientology, Mormonism, Christianity, Catholic, put it all into one.

[00:35:12] [SPEAKER_00] That's these people. I'm talking like cultish weirdo motherfuckers.

[00:35:17] [SPEAKER_02] Right? Yeah. You guys have bucket heads up in Washington.

[00:35:22] [SPEAKER_00] Yeah. And so I'm like, Oh, Oh, I mean, even like we were talking to someone next to me with my friends and some woman shushed me like, Oh, the Messiah is talking. I'm like, the woman's channeling Abraham. You know what I mean? It's like, really in front of all these people. I'm supposed to be like Abraham, like talking to the masses.

[00:35:40] [SPEAKER_02] Do they want you to go in and sell the same stuff to your clients?

[00:35:44] [SPEAKER_00] Oh, no, totally.

[00:35:46] [SPEAKER_02] How receptive do you think your clients would be to that? I mean, just like an MLM. Anybody that tries to get me into an MLM. Right. I mean, I have people that tried to get me into Amway, doTERRA. There's been a few others. I mean, what? Oh my gosh.

[00:36:01] [SPEAKER_00] What are the, that was this whole thing. So, I mean, we're sitting there and we maybe got through like 20 minutes of it. Then they had like a Q and a, you mean after the Messiah, whoever it was, Abraham Hicks, and you know, had like a meltdown or whatever it was. And then these fucking people, I mean, they're going through and they're saying like how happy they are, how they found the secret and how their life has changed. And there's one person wrote a book called happy. And he also changed his name to happy. So it's a happy by happy.

[00:36:27] [SPEAKER_00] I'm like, Oh, what the, I looked at my friends, like we're fucking out of here. Then they had a break where you went outside and you had all these books and videos to buy from. And it was like the MLM, like pitch you here, pitch you there, buy this. And then we walked outside the parking lot and people walking in circles, talking and like saying mantras to themselves that they were learning from the secret and shit. And I'm like, dude, we got to go, you know, I'm like, this is fucking insane. So we went to magic mountain for the rest of the day.

[00:36:56] [SPEAKER_00] Cause we're literally down the street, but Yeah.

[00:37:00] [SPEAKER_02] But can you imagine taking people? No, can you imagine taking that into your salon and actually promoting it to your clients? No. And then these people think that that's what you're going to do.

[00:37:09] [SPEAKER_00] Yeah. Yeah. My clients want to know about restaurants that I ate at in France.

[00:37:16] [SPEAKER_02] There you know what I mean?

[00:37:17] [SPEAKER_00] They want to know about like, you know, restaurant information. They want to know about like, Hey, my kid did like, you know, my, this is my wife's a school teacher. Like, what does she think about the district about things like that? Basically. I mean, yeah. It's like, if they need help with something that's like self-help, you know what I mean? Just kind of like, dude, I need to call up. We have a plumber that, you know, or electrician that, you know, who's does a really good job? Oh yeah. That's the kind of help they need. You know what I mean? When it comes to mental health, it's like, they know to call a therapist.

[00:37:47] [SPEAKER_00] Yeah.

[00:37:48] [SPEAKER_02] I mean, but we just have, we have one manicurist there. She was trying to years ago selling ED supplements for women in the salon. Yeah. How women that have low women that have low sex drive. It was these supplements to help women out with that.

[00:38:06] [SPEAKER_00] Well, that's not erectile dysfunction though. I mean, that's not, it's not hard clitoris. I'm like, I'm going to wrestle with a big old fucking like. I'm going to look at my therapist.

[00:38:15] I'm going to look at my therapist.

[00:38:17] [SPEAKER_00] Parker's a fucking rock. If it goes longer than four hours, you better watch it for my therapist. I'm going to fall.

[00:38:24] [SPEAKER_02] So, well, just low sex drive. I don't think about it for women. I mean, I'm sure it's out there and it's real, but she would made everybody in the salon. So uncomfortable. A lot of our clients stopped coming and other clients would say, I don't want to come into the salon if she's here because she won't stop talking about it.

[00:38:43] [SPEAKER_00] Wow. Yeah.

[00:38:44] [SPEAKER_02] And so that's where it was affecting the salon.

[00:38:47] [SPEAKER_00] Yeah.

[00:38:48] [SPEAKER_02] And my Intel.

[00:38:49] [SPEAKER_00] Yeah. You think it's hard time about shampoo. Talk about fucking hard clitorises, but that's the thing. I mean, people don't want to be sold to if they're looking for something, they're going to find it online. I mean, people will fall for this, you know, multi. Well, we do have product lines out there and actually we'd be doing an episode on that coming up in about a month or so about a product line that is an MLN and they have all the shitty assigned for.

[00:39:16] [SPEAKER_00] And I got the documents and this person, I know he's going to be really pissed off at me about this, but it got weird and it got shitty and they are not nice to people. So we are going to be talking about that. So if you don't slip into it, because the thing about those like for me, I come from a very culty. Well, you know, because you're a very culty religious background, you know what I mean?

[00:39:42] [SPEAKER_00] So for someone who grew up with that, either you spot it like at the fucking beginning or you fall for it. One on the other. You're kind of like in two camps, you know, and unfortunately they find those victims, those people that were who are like, you know, who've been through that kind of stuff. And to them, it kind of feels like home. So it feels good.

[00:40:04] [SPEAKER_02] I've seen that before. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:40:05] [SPEAKER_00] Right. And when you have the other ones, you shun them and you know, you kind of like push them out that way. They can't tell other people what they're actually doing. They make you the, the bad person. You know what I mean? You're the piece of shit. So we're going to be talking about that coming up pretty soon, but that's all these multi-level companies. That's exactly what they do. I was like the mafia either with us or you're against us.

[00:40:30] [SPEAKER_02] Oh yeah. I've seen it so many times. I mean, yeah. Yeah. Oh my gosh. I had another manicurist person that was all about Melaleuca. That smell permeated. Fuck that. Melaleuca. Melaleuca. It's out of Idaho.

[00:40:43] [SPEAKER_00] It just sounds stupid already. Melaleuca.

[00:40:47] [SPEAKER_02] Melaleuca. And it's this one plant that is only grown in Idaho and derived from, from those plants anyways. And it just was going absolutely. And you're talking laundry detergent, makeup, hair product, vitamins, supplements. Everything across the board, lifestyle type of stuff.

[00:41:06] [SPEAKER_00] Well run your whole life. One website. Yeah.

[00:41:09] [SPEAKER_02] And, and, and it was MLM and I'm all, I can't do this. I, I, my clients don't like it. I can't endorse it. I don't like the product. I don't like the way it smells. And, but the thing is, is that, okay. So when we're talking about that kind of stuff, whether it's self-help or multi-level marketing, how many times do we have to tell people I don't want to, before they, you have to cut them off. And then they want you, and then they want your client list. They want you to advertise all over your social media. It's just, it's.

[00:41:34] [SPEAKER_00] Oh, hell no.

[00:41:35] [SPEAKER_02] Oh, I've been asked that before. I've been asked that, or you've got a big social media presence. We were going to make a ton of money. You need to post it everywhere. We're going to sell this. I mean, one of my last client mascara wanted me to buy $1,700 worth of one kind of mascara.

[00:41:50] [SPEAKER_00] What?

[00:41:51] [SPEAKER_02] Yeah.

[00:41:52] [SPEAKER_00] Damn.

[00:41:53] [SPEAKER_02] And then she kept on sending me samples, sending me marketing stuff to hang in my salon. And I'm all, I'm not going to sell this. I don't.

[00:42:00] [SPEAKER_00] Her husband must've been pissed. He's like, you send to everybody. You spent how much money on what? And that's a lot. That's a lot of what it is. A lot of these women, they fall for. They think that they're going to make all this money and look, okay. Mary Kay did well. All right. She did really well. And Tupperware did well. You know what I mean? But that was the seventies. The eighties. Shit's different now. Oh yeah.

[00:42:22] [SPEAKER_02] Right when I, right when I got into, um, before bedhead was bed, bedhead, it was TG. And I pulled in a TG makeup line, the whole unit and everything. And, um, I had one client come in to me and she says, I've got great news. You don't have to sell that TG anymore because I bought Mary Kay and I spent three grand buying into the whole kit. And we're going to go get you into a kit. And I said, no, you're not.

[00:42:46] [SPEAKER_00] No.

[00:42:47] [SPEAKER_02] And she's up. She's up. What? She said, but I thought you'd be in with this with me. I'm all, you thought wrong. I'm only selling professional products to professionals. Now the Mary Kay is bad. I've found some very good Mary Kay stuff, but anybody can get into buying and selling Mary Kay. Only I sell the TG and the bedhead stuff. That's where I want to lie.

[00:43:09] [SPEAKER_00] And so you thought at the moment.

[00:43:11] [SPEAKER_02] Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah. 11 years later, I'm all right.

[00:43:17] [SPEAKER_00] Yeah, exactly. Exactly. But yeah, that's that. How, how she think these guys have a patch or something. You have a contract with this woman saying like, Hey, I'm still Mary Kay with you. Really?

[00:43:28] [SPEAKER_02] Yeah. But that's how these MLM companies think is that they're going to sell you and you're going to get on board and you're going to sell to everyone because they're so excited about it. Next.

[00:43:37] [SPEAKER_00] It's nice to have a dream.

[00:43:39] [SPEAKER_02] It's nice.

[00:43:42] [SPEAKER_00] It's a dream. It's a dream. It's a dream. You know, it's like, Oh my God, if I just believe hard enough in the secret and I go through and I believe and I tell myself I'm going to have something, it's going to happen.

[00:43:53] [SPEAKER_02] I'm going to manifest it or I'm manifesting it. It's going to work because I'm manifesting it.

[00:43:58] [SPEAKER_00] Can you manifest or sure, but you have to have a detailed plan with it. You know what I mean? You have to have action to it.

[00:44:05] [SPEAKER_02] Exactly. There has to be action to the thought. Right. Action to the words. Words of words and it's just a thought.

[00:44:12] [SPEAKER_00] That's why there's business plans and that's why you have different levels and you go through and you work yourself up to that point. And it's like, yeah, I have a vision and I want to get to that point. I want to have the big house and I want to have the nice car. What's going to get me there? It doesn't put the pictures up. If you want, if you need a mood board, because that's exactly how we come up with collections for hair. We have a mood board. Storyboard. I love storyboard.

[00:44:36] [SPEAKER_00] It's like there's create a storyboard, but then also write down a plan of action on how you're going to get to that. And do it. Otherwise it won't happen. You can, you can go through and will yourself and secret yourself to fucking a mansion in the fucking sky. You know what I mean? And guess what? It ain't going to fucking happen because you're definitely fucking the Lulu at that point. You know, that's the thing. So many fucking delusional, but that's the thing. That's where the predators come after. They come out for people like that. And that's a sad part of it.

[00:45:06] [SPEAKER_00] And unfortunately. With hairdressers, they're like all trying to make as much money as possible, especially right now. The economy is not doing so great. Yeah. And so everyone, what you start seeing is you start seeing all these predators come out and go on by my program and you're going to make this much money. They don't even say by my program, they start off with like, what are you missing in your life? They start off with like, didn't you wish you had this in your life? The aren't you, aren't you an entrepreneur? You're an entrepreneur.

[00:45:36] [SPEAKER_00] I can tell, you know, Paula, you're an entrepreneur. I can see it in your eyes. So I know you want to go through and have that 30,000 square foot house. So how I'm going to help you get you there by going through and selling houses in Indiana.

[00:45:49] [SPEAKER_02] Those are people that are trying to get you to do the work for them. I had a client years ago. So arrogant. And then after he stopped coming to me years later, I dated him for a hot minute and that didn't go well. But he did call me one time and he says, I have got a really great idea. And he worked, he played for the symphony. He says, downtown, when people are getting ready for the symphony, open a salon downtown where women can go and get their hair done before they come to the symphony or before they go out to dinner, before they go to the symphony.

[00:46:19] [SPEAKER_02] And when you, when you execute that idea, this is my gift to you. You can let me know and let me know how it's going. And I said, well, that's something I'm not going to do. He says, you'll make great money on it. And then one day you can thank me fiscally.

[00:46:36] [SPEAKER_00] Oh, great. I know.

[00:46:38] [SPEAKER_02] And I'm all, okay. So you came up with an idea. You want me to execute it, me to get the licensing, get the stylist, sign the lease. And it's a gift. What?

[00:46:46] [SPEAKER_00] Right.

[00:46:47] [SPEAKER_02] Yeah.

[00:46:47] [SPEAKER_00] Oh, good. Yeah. Hope you have that all trademarks and you can sue me afterwards for that shit. You know what I mean? It's like, really? I know I don't fucking think so, but that's the thing right now. Economy is not super great. Watch out for the fucking predators. I mean, every website that I go to, whether it's my health insurance or if it comes to light, the electricity company, everyone has a warning out there right now, you guys. And they're saying, watch out for the scams. And I say you missed a bill or you miss like a doctor's appointment.

[00:47:16] [SPEAKER_00] You know, what's this much money or something like that? It's all over the, even the IRS is like, we don't call you. No, the IRS doesn't call you. And that's the thing right now, even with hairdressers, other, unfortunately, other hairdressers are trying to go through and profit off of, off of you. And that's the sad part of it. And so we kind of, you guys need to stop this shit. No more with this. Like, you know, oh, you need, you want to level up, you know? So you want to level up, get some fucking education.

[00:47:45] [SPEAKER_00] Don't listen to someone who's going to sell you a fucking program that doesn't fucking work. Cause I guarantee there, it doesn't work for them. They bought off of someone else. And now they're trying to push it off onto you. So don't do it. Don't do it. Let's get knee deep into some shit. All right. All right. All you fucking predators out there. No more of this getting away with crap. I just write in a fucking essay. You pulled this shit ever again.

[00:48:14] [SPEAKER_00] We're going straight to chemical castration. No more erections. No more nothing. Motherfucker. You can't secret your way out of this shit.

[00:48:22] [SPEAKER_02] Yeah. A mommy and daddy will not be able to bail you out because they've been out of it as well. In fact, one of the families sent their child, one of the seven to another country that he could not be extradited from way to go. Parents. Thank you for your support.

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